Tom Ford NOIR POUR FEMME: a GEM fully suitable for men

AntonPan

Basenotes Dependent
May 8, 2008
I'm not a fan of the situation when a man is wearing perfume marketed for a woman, but Noir Pour Femme is the fragrance I feel comfortable in. It smells 80% similar to Noir Pour Homme Extreme but without a cheap "1 million" note of dirty leather. Thus, Noir Pour Femme is deeper and more "niche" variation of Noir Extreme.

To me Noir Pour Femme is a mix of TF Tobacco Vanille and TF Plum Japonais: ambery sweet, gingery sour with a prominent tobacco note on my skin (though it is not listed). Magnificent both for men and for women! And yes, it is closer to Private Blend line in terms of quality.
 

freewheelingvagabond

Basenotes Institution
Jun 10, 2012
Thanks for the suggestion.

I don't give a damn about gender-based marketing labels.

However, I am still not excited to try this since I find all three of Noir EdT, Noir EdP and Noir Extreme to be very underwhelming.
 

hednic

Basenotes Institution
Oct 25, 2007
I'm not a fan of the situation when a man is wearing perfume marketed for a woman,
Pretty much feel the same but also believe that if one feels comfortable wearing any scent and enjoys it, that's all that should matter.
 

tr88

Basenotes Junkie
Mar 12, 2015
you got me at plum japonais mix, i love this one, my second favorite tom ford after tuscan leather

i need to try it
 

gerbick

Basenotes Dependent
Jun 13, 2009
To me Noir Pour Femme is a mix of TF Tobacco Vanille and TF Plum Japonais: ambery sweet, gingery sour with a prominent tobacco note on my skin (though it is not listed). Magnificent both for men and for women! And yes, it is closer to Private Blend line in terms of quality.

Okay, glad to see that I'm not the only one that picked up Plum Japonais but something else. I'd almost say it's Sahara Noir, which was a nod to Amber Absolute in my book.
 

Davem81

Basenotes Dependent
Jul 26, 2011
you got me at plum japonais mix, i love this one, my second favorite tom ford after tuscan leather

i need to try it

That comparison has also piqued my curiosity, I must say! I'm also reluctant regarding scents marketed to women, but will have to give this one a try!
 

Lomaniac

Basenotes Dependent
Aug 4, 2014
Is it just me, or is every 'new' TF review discussing how much they smell like old TF perfumes? It's like the thing SAs would say about how the line is meant for layering was taken to the next level, and they're just pouring two previous concoctions together into new bottles.
 

Vinrambo09

Basenotes Dependent
Jan 14, 2010
Agree with Anton, this is far superior to the mens version.
One of the better Tom Ford releases in a while.
 

gtsb

Basenotes Dependent
Jan 15, 2011
I tried this one and also really, really liked it. But it was just a tad too sweet for me. I mean, anyone who feels comfortable wearing DHI should feel comfortable wearing this one. But nevertheless the sweetness was a bit too much for me; I'm going to buy this one for my wife though ;)
 

superfluousPastry

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 14, 2014
It's like the thing SAs would say about how the line is meant for layering was taken to the next level, and they're just pouring two previous concoctions together into new bottles.

Very good point. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a mix of TV and PJ. Since my brother liked the tobacco note in TV he was told by a SA that he could layer it with Tobacco Oud....they sell another fragrance and get feedback for a new mix to market as a new fragrance. Add a dash of something new to the mix and viola!, instant reviewed, known-to-be-liked classic. I do find most TF offerings to be too stripped down, trying to hard not to smell like 'old colognes' that they succeed in smelling one dimensional like candles or glade room fresheners. Mixing together would be natural for anyone who appreciates a proper 'composition' and not "ambient music"
 

Nouveau Nez

Basenotes Junkie
Sep 21, 2011
IMO, it does push the traditional "masculin" fragrance envelope a bit - but I'm personally loving it. I never tested TF Noir Extreme so, I can't compare the two. I don't personally get any tobacco or plum association and I have both Tabacco Vanille and Plum Japonais.

The opening has a prominant rose note - similar to Noir de Noir - but it quickly fades. Then it becomes a straight-up gourmand w/ the most pronounced note being the "Kulfi" dessert accord. So, IMO, the drydown is much closer to unisex than the opening. As a comparison, I think its drydown is a tad more masculin than Black Orchid.
 
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cameron

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 17, 2011
Sampled at sephora today. Smells good but definitely feminine (I only smelled opening and don't know how it develops). Smells much better than the men's version.


Does remind me of plum japonais but more feminine.
 

CapriDog

Basenotes Institution
Mar 1, 2012
Sometimes I wonder if some might get hung up by the word " Pour Femme". To me it's as masculine/ feminine as Dior HOMME. If one can rock Dior Homme, I think one can wear TF Noir pour Femme with ease.
 

cameron

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 17, 2011
It definitely has "femme ingredients" ie that I smell more in women's perfumes. Wish I knew more about the ingredients to tell you
Which ones.

It smells very nice. I would
Consider purchasing once I see how it develops over time. I own BO, DH vintage and rock them regularly. This one is a more femme version of plum japonais which isn't a bad thing since I think there is too much incense in PJ (I prefer the bond andy warhol over both the TFs)
 

Twilight99

Basenotes Junkie
Nov 23, 2013
IMO, it does push the traditional "masculin" fragrance envelope a bit - but I'm personally loving it. I never tested TF Noir Extreme so, I can't compare the two. I don't personally get any tobacco or plum association and I have both Tabacco Vanille and Plum Japonais.

The opening has a prominant rose note - similar to Noir de Noir - but it quickly fades. Then it becomes a straight-up gourmand w/ the most pronounced note being the "Kulfi" dessert accord. So, IMO, the drydown is much closer to unisex than the opening. As a comparison, I think its drydown is a tad more masculin than Black Orchid.

I really need to get a sample of this one! Anyone else try it?
 

cameron

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 17, 2011
Went back to sephora today to test. Got more smokiness today than yesterday
Which is good. I compared it side by side to the noir extreme men's version and noir men.

The femme pops on the skin much more and has more personality. My lady friend said the men's noir extreme is sexier but the femme noir is better work friendly.

I bought the noir femme because it has a balance of fem and masculine and more personality. Extreme noir mesn is more manly and prob great for
Night but isn't my style.
 

Nouveau Nez

Basenotes Junkie
Sep 21, 2011
Went back to sephora today to test. Got more smokiness today than yesterday
Which is good. I compared it side by side to the noir extreme men's version and noir men.

The femme pops on the skin much more and has more personality. My lady friend said the men's noir extreme is sexier but the femme noir is better work friendly.

I bought the noir femme because it has a balance of fem and masculine and more personality. Extreme noir mesn is more manly and prob great for
Night but isn't my style.


Thanks for the "field report". :) Great to hear that I likely made the right choice in purchasing Pour Femme too - never having tested the Noir Extreme. I'm thinking it may also layer well w/ Tuscan Leather - but have not yet tried.
 
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cameron

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 17, 2011
On my skin for a few hours now. Oh yeah this is great stuff!

I like it better than men's for sure. I like it better than plum japonais as I find PJ to be too incensy for me (daily wear). It's like a smoothed out PJ to me. Very awesome and FBW!

They have at sephoras if anyone wants to sample. Glad I gave this another test today. Thought it was a bit too fem yesterday but today I am getting a much better balance especially worn on skin and now in the mid notes.
 

gandhajala

Basenotes Dependent
Sep 3, 2010
I thought the original Noir was a daring and well done mainstream release: civet and patchouli and opoponax, riffing on a Guerlain theme.
Noir pour femme however, has nothing in common with Noir, save the name (which is here a misnomer): it's a vanilla desert bomb.
A pretty cynical release, in my view.
 

CapriDog

Basenotes Institution
Mar 1, 2012
On my skin for a few hours now. Oh yeah this is great stuff!

I like it better than men's for sure. I like it better than plum japonais as I find PJ to be too incensy for me (daily wear). It's like a smoothed out PJ to me. Very awesome and FBW!

They have at sephoras if anyone wants to sample. Glad I gave this another test today. Thought it was a bit too fem yesterday but today I am getting a much better balance especially worn on skin and now in the mid notes.

Congrats on the purchase and glad you like it.

I do like the top note of Noir Extreme ( some said pistachio? ) but the mid and dry down settle along the line of Noir pour Femme so I did not buy Noir Extreme. Nordstrom also offers the value gift set ( 1.7 oz perfume, and a body lotion) for the price of a stand alone 1.7 oz perfume if anyone is interested.

Yes, the name is misleading as Noir Extreme and Noir Pour Femme are totally different than TF Noir ( which is along the line of Guerlain Habit Rouge).
 

cameron

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 17, 2011
Now with a full day wear I am definitely behind this a a quality FBW scent. Check it out - just know top starts more feminine but evolves to an amazing dry down that is more unisex imo.

I'm on board the hype train!!!! Choo choo! Lol
 

Nouveau Nez

Basenotes Junkie
Sep 21, 2011
Now with a full day wear I am definitely behind this a a quality FBW scent. Check it out - just know top starts more feminine but evolves to an amazing dry down that is more unisex imo.

I'm on board the hype train!!!! Choo choo! Lol

Yep, I fully agree...I think it's one of his best releases in recent years - fantastic stuff!!
 

Twilight99

Basenotes Junkie
Nov 23, 2013
I just got my bottle today. As a man I love this scent. I now regret that I bought Noir Extreme earlier as they are very similar, but Noir Femme is definitely better. I can almost smell milk chocolate. Now that colder days are here, it will be perfect in the evenings. Every man should have a bottle of this.
 

etoile

Basenotes Dependent
Jan 14, 2007
I bought this one too.
Nice scent indeed!
I'm addicted to it right now.
Agree! Similar to Noir Extreme but better!
 

mikeperez23

Be Here. Now.
Basenotes Plus
Dec 31, 2006
Wearing this today, 1st time - I agree that this smells BETTER than the masculine release, but it (like the masculine) has that irritating amber base note that's synthetic. I must be hypernosmic to it. Same amber note in Ambre Nuit by Christian Dior. The way Turin described AN in The Guide sums it up - it has a biscuit-mixed-with-floor-wax smell.

Nonetheless, if you're a fan of Noir please try Noir Pour Femme.
 

broguesforsir

Basenotes Dependent
Aug 19, 2012
Noir Pour Femme was one of the fragrances I bought my wife for Christmas, and my word, it is very good. Even better than I expected. I consider it superior to the corresponding men’s Noir Extreme (which my wife actually gifted to me a couple of Christmasses before).

There’s definitely a gorgeous sweet tobacco note in Noir Pour Femme, although it is not listed. To my nose it is not a flavoured tobacco sweetness, but rather a natural tobacco sweetness. I wonder if they didn’t list tobacco because the fragrance is marketed to women and they considered it imprudent to do so? I also pick up a chocolate note (again, not listed). I really, really do like Noir Extreme but Noir Pour Femme definitely has more going on and it does it all very, very well. I also think I prefer the way the woods are handled in Noir Pour Femme. I’ve still not tried it on my skin but will do one day, for sure.
 

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