The Beefcake Thread: Scent a Favorite Man

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H1: My first instinct when I see any of the younger guys is to feed him then send him out on his merry way. I would, however, be tempted to shamelessly ask for a picture of their dads.

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“I tamed an elite Bene Gesserit. You?”

 

[CookBot]

“I tamed an elite Bene Gesserit. You?”

Synchronous. I was just thinking about adding Oscar Isaac to this thread. Last week I watched him in two J.C. Chandor movies where he was alternately sexy, terrifying, and vulnerable. Maybe time to gather up some Oscar Isaac photos. He's certainly becoming a go-to figure when you want a certain kind of thoughtful masculine stillness.

And there's no denying that hair.

 

[Adonna]

The handsome and talented Oscar Isaac
regarding scent.......
Noir de Noir

 

[CookBot]

The handsome and talented Oscar Isaac
regarding scent.......
Noir de Noir

Not a bad choice at all. I just learned on Wikipedia that he's half Cuban and half Guatemalan. I hadn't even realized he was Hispanic, but now of course that sends my mind toward tobacco and spice. But no -- I think I would counter-program all that dark-and-brooding with something unexpected and floral, like Caron Pour un Homme.

I'd seen him in a few minor roles, but what got me smitten with him was a tremendous, little-seen movie called A Most Violent Year, an unfortunate title for a film that's hardly violent at all, in which he does for the camelhair overcoat what Bogart once did for the fedora. It's a wonderful movie that shares some genes with The Godfather, except it's about a striver who's doing his damnedest to not have his business become a criminal enterprise. I realize he's most known for the Star Wars franchise, but he shines best in these smaller indie films. I can't recommend this one highly enough. Isaac has all the electricity of the young Pacino. In 2020, The New York Times ranked him #14 in its list of the 25 Greatest Actors of the 21st Century.

 

[grayspoole]

I'd seen him in a few minor roles, but what got me smitten with him was a tremendous, little-seen movie called A Most Violent Year, an unfortunate title for a film that's hardly violent at all, in which he does for the camelhair overcoat what Bogart once did for the fedora. It's a wonderful movie that shares some genes with The Godfather, except it's about a striver who's doing his damnedest to not have his business become a criminal enterprise. I realize he's most known for the Star Wars franchise, but he shines best in these smaller indie films. I can't recommend this one highly enough. Isaac has all the electricity of the young Pacino. In 2020, The New York Times ranked him #14 in its list of the 25 Greatest Actors of the 21st Century.

I’ll have to check out this film. Cook.bot. I also think Isaac did good work in Inside Llewyn Davis (2013). He’s a musician too!

Since he seems to be living his best life as a Williamsburg hipster (do people still use that word?), including beard, I’m thinking he might go for something ultra indie...perhaps by commissioning a custom scent from Christopher Brosius? Honestly, he could wear sheep dip and he would still be attractive.

 

[CookBot]

I’ll have to check out this film. Cook.bot. I also think Isaac did good work in Inside Llewyn Davis (2013). He’s a musician too!

Please do that. You'll be astonished at seeing him go from the sad sack Llewyn Davis to this suave, composed operator.

Since he seems to be living his best life as a Williamsburg hipster (do people still use that word?), including beard, I’m thinking he might go for something ultra indie...perhaps by commissioning a custom scent from Christopher Brosius? Honestly, he could wear sheep dip and he would still be attractive.

I'm so tired of beards.

And once you see him in that camelhair topcoat, you'll be convinced he deserves a bespoke fragrance.

Another great lead role for Isaac was in Paul Schrader's The Card Counter, a taut little drama that makes the most of his commanding natural stillness. Includes a terrific role for Tiffany Haddisch, too.

 

[grayspoole]

I noticed our Beefcake thread was languishing, forgotten and forlorn, and WE CAN’T HAVE THAT! So here’s another Kdrama star, Park Seo Joon:

In addition to being a really good actor, this guy, unless he is being asked to model some designer’s fantasy for a photo shoot, is always well dressed. interestingly, he is crossing over into Western films and is on the roster for the next Marvel superhero flick, but his role (and superpower) have not yet been announced. Perhaps he is...Fashion Man!!!!



Oh, he also has a cute dog, Simba.

 

[Adonna]

Handsome and sophisticated Park Seo Joon
Molecule 1
Neroli Portofino
Grey Flannel

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[N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer]

Rudolph Valentino in Son of the Sheik

 

[grayspoole]

Handsome and sophisticated Park Seo Joon
Molecule 1
Neroli Portofino
Grey Flannel

a...

I forgot to suggest a perfume for him! I was stumped. I think these are all great choices—very clean and sharply tailored.

 

[grayspoole]

Rudolph Valentino in Son of the Sheik

An oldie but goodie. What perfume are you thinking for him? Perhaps an old attar or mukhallat?

Shalimar came out the year before this film. Rudolph Valentino could have worn it!

 

[N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer]

An oldie but goodie. What perfume are you thinking for him? Perhaps an old attar or mukhallat?

Shalimar came out the year before this film. Rudolph Valentino could have worn it!

I was thinking Djedi, it was released in 1926. It definitely had the look at that time. Would you agree?

 

[N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer]

Vincent Price House of Wax

 

[grayspoole]

Vincent Price House of Wax

And what perfume would you suggest for him?

Price was certainly an interesting man— tall, cultured, funny and in possession of a wonderfully sonorous voice. My brother is a big Vincent Price fan, but I never really appreciated his horror roles. I do enjoy Price’s acting very much in one of my favorite films, Otto Preminger’s Laura (1944), where he plays a charming well bred gigolo. Here he is, having a stare down with detective Dana Andrews, with Clifton Webb looking on. One could write a dissertation on the three different concepts of masculinity conveyed by these characters in the film.



I think Shelby Carpenter (Price’s character) would wear Jicky.

 

[N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer]

And what perfume would you suggest for him?

Price was certainly an interesting man— tall, cultured, funny and in possession of a wonderfully sonorous voice. My brother is a big Vincent Price fan, but I never really appreciated his horror roles. I do enjoy Price’s acting very much in one of my favorite films, Otto Preminger’s Laura (1944), where he plays a charming well bred gigolo. Here he is, having a stare down with detective Dana Andrews, with Clifton Webb looking on. One could write a dissertation on the three different concepts of masculinity conveyed by these characters in the film.

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I think Shelby Carpenter (Price’s character) would wear Jicky.

I would say Lavande by Guerlain. This was still being sold in the early 1950s. It's a lavender with a woody chypre base. Have you tried it?

 

[Adonna]

Rudolph Valentino - Pour un Homme - a second to Djedi
Vincent Price - Pour un Homme -
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[N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer]

Rudolph Valentino - Pour un Homme - a second to Djedi
Vincent Price - Pour un Homme -
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Pour un Homme came in 1934 and Rudolph wasn't around by that time.

 

[N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer]

Gregory Peck - To Kill a Mockingbird - Guerlain Vetiver

 

[Adonna]

Pour un Homme came in 1934 and Rudolph wasn't around by that time.

hmm, okay. LOL
the 'rules' are we need to be historically accurate......... so Djedi

 

[CookBot]

the 'rules' are we need to be historically accurate.........

What fun would a fantasy be if it had rules ?!?

 

[N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer]

Orson Welles - Citizen Kane - Guerlain Chypre de Paris

 

[PStoller]

Orson Welles - Citizen Kane - Guerlain Chypre de Paris

With Orson Welles, I get beef, and I get cake, but not beefcake.

 

[grayspoole]

With Orson Welles, I get beef, and I get cake, but not beefcake

I have to agree. Hard to pin exactly why this is so. It may be his choice of roles. He is never trying to be attractive in any of them, is he?

 

[PStoller]

I have to agree. Hard to pin exactly why this is so. It may be his choice of roles. He is never trying to be attractive in any of them, is he?

No, if anything, I think he’s trying to wrestle with traits he finds unattractive in himself and others.

Plus he’s just so damned doughy.

 

[grayspoole]

No, if anything, I think he’s trying to wrestle with traits he finds unattractive in himself and others.

Plus he’s just so damned doughy.

‘After meditating on this for a while, I think Welles is most attractive to me in Touch of Evil (1958), but that is probably because he and Marlene Dietrich play so well together.


Doughy, yes, but...

 

[CookBot]

No, if anything, I think he’s trying to wrestle with traits he finds unattractive in himself and others.

True that. There were many attractive qualities about Orson Welles, but unfortunately Orson Welles wasn't one of them.

Just last week I watched an obscure Welles film from the early 1950s called Confidential Report (or Mr. Arkadin) in which he went out of his way to make himself as ugly as possible, and he wasn't even 40 years old yet.

 

[N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer]

Marlon Brando - On the Waterfront - Old Spice

 

[grayspoole]

Marlon Brando - On the Waterfront - Old Spice

Absolutely! Good choice!

Young Brando is perhaps the definition of beefcake, served rare.

 

[PStoller]

Young Brando is perhaps the definition of beefcake…

He certainly coulda been a contender.

 

[CookBot]

Young Brando is perhaps the definition of beefcake, served rare.

He certainly coulda been a contender.

Not for me. Despite having a lot of admiration for much of his acting, I've never found Brando at any age to have a single shred of sexual magnetism, or really personal magnetism of any sort. He's always seemed to me like he was performing some kind of cartoonish satire of masculinity.

In fact, I've always thought the quintessential Brando role was in the campy, lurid Reflections in a Golden Eye, where his impotent character yearns tormentedly for a handsome young Army private and gets beaten with a riding crop by his adulterous wife (Liz Taylor).

 

[grayspoole]

Not for me. Despite having a lot of admiration for much of his acting, I've never found Brando at any age to have a single shred of sexual magnetism, or really personal magnetism of any sort. He's always seemed to me like he was performing some kind of cartoonish satire of masculinity.

In fact, I've always thought the quintessential Brando role was in the campy, lurid Reflections in a Golden Eye, where his impotent character yearns tormentedly for a handsome young Army private and gets beaten with a riding crop by his adulterous wife (Liz Taylor).

“Performing some kind of cartoonish satire of masculinity” is an interesting angle on Brando. I do agree that he always seems to be aware of his performance of masculinity, but I don’t find him cartoonish. In On the Waterfront and A Streetcar Named Desire, I perceive characters with an almost tragic masculinity. And I have to confess that I do enjoy him in Guys and Dolls, even though he can’t sing or dance much.

 

[PStoller]

I have to confess that I do enjoy him in Guys and Dolls, even though he can’t sing or dance much.

Sinatra wanted to play Sky Masterson (as did Gene Kelly), but Brando’s marquee clout made him the romantic lead by studio logic. Sinatra also wanted to play Terry Molloy and Don Corleone, but Masterson is one role that truly would’ve been a better fit for the Chairman.

No surprise that the two did not get along.

 

[Adonna]

The Brilliant Orson Welles = Le 3e Homme de Caron
The Spectacular Marlon Brando = Acqua Di Parma Colonia
a...
I missed The Magnificent Gregory Peck = Guerlain Vetiver x2

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[CookBot]

Masterson is one role that truly would’ve been a better fit for the Chairman

It really would have. And then they could've kicked Stubby Kaye up into the role of Miss Adelaide's sweetheart, which would have a been a truly fun pairing.

 

[PStoller]

It really would have. And then they could've kicked Stubby Kaye up into the role of Miss Adelaide's sweetheart, which would have a been a truly fun pairing.

He could have played Nathan, it’s true, but he was an exemplary Nicely Nicely.

I tried out for Sky Masterson in summer camp, and instead they cast me as Nathan Detroit. When I came back to school, they were also doing Guys and Dolls, so I auditioned for Nathan. They cast me as Sky.

 

[N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer]

Absolutely! Good choice!

Young Brando is perhaps the definition of beefcake, served rare.

He certainly coulda been a contender.

How about Don Corleone in Godfather I/II? Despite his criminal background, he puts a lot of emphasis on family and friends.

 

[PStoller]

How about Don Corleone in Godfather I/II? Despite his criminal background, he puts a lot of emphasis on family and friends.

What has that to do with “beefcake?”

 

[N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer]

Humphrey Bogart - Guerlain Eau de Cologne Imperiale - Casablanca

 

[grayspoole]

Humphrey Bogart - Guerlain Eau de Cologne Imperiale - Casablanca

Lovely photo…and a great cologne choice. I can watch Casablanca a million times, it seems.

And how about…Victor Laszlo/Paul Henreid?



I vote for Houbigant Fougère Royale (1882).

And here’s an amusing ad for that one:

 

[kewart]

Ladies I give you Tommy Shelby (played by Cilian Murphy) from the Peaky Blinders tv series.