Slumberhouse Discussion

rowan-

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Dec 30, 2012
I'd mentioned prior that I'd never really liked Vikt much in the past, largely because of the vegetal / mineral facets mixing with the resins to give it a bit of syrupy vibe. I must say though, that applying the old version in order to compare it with the new, it's somewhat apparent that my tastes have evolved a bit as I didn't find the original to be quite as rough this time as I remember it being a couple of years ago.

It's funny - I was revisiting the old Vikt in anticipation of the new one, and my experience seems to be similar to yours. I didn't find it as syrupy or cloying as I had remembered. In fact, it did actually have more breathing room than I thought (at least in the first two hours or so, before it subsided into that vegetal goop) and I can imagine the direction he's taken for the new one. It sounds very promising. Thanks for the review, DI!
 

juanderer

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Nov 15, 2012
I wonder what difference there is, if any, between the Mare currently available and the limited run I got my hands on five months ago.
 

gtsb

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Jan 15, 2011
Hey all,

Sorry for the delay -- been busy on this end. So here are a few notes on the new Vikt in relation to the original:

I'd mentioned prior that I'd never really liked Vikt much in the past, largely because of the vegetal / mineral facets mixing with the resins to give it a bit of syrupy vibe. I must say though, that applying the old version in order to compare it with the new, it's somewhat apparent that my tastes have evolved a bit as I didn't find the original to be quite as rough this time as I remember it being a couple of years ago. Given this, the difference between the two is still apparent, but not quite as black and white as I'd thought; revisiting the original added perspective.


In contrast to the original, the new version has more clarity about the notes and the composition seems to have a little more breathing room. Also, the new version appears to have an additional layer over the oud base of the original (that I'm assuming to be mysore) which serves to elevate the more prominent notes of the scent. Fans of the original will recognize many of the same components (which seem to still be oud, styrax, ravensara and that licorice type note that I'm assuming is fennel). In other words, the original is very much present, but there's a new brightness that takes the somewhat muddy swirl of the older version and polishes it up. Because of this, the newer version feels slightly more medicinal: a balmy, resinous, camphorous thing, but there's a surprisingly invigorating component to it as well. I'm guessing that the vegetal notes have been dialed down to make room for the licorice-type note that's arguably the main focus, and the most reductive way I can describe this is that it smells very much like natural, raw licorice sticks. It wears incredibly well as it settles into a more incense type thing quite fast, and for much of the ride, it's linear and very consistent. As with several of his other extrait transformations, this is now a little more civilized as far as tenacity goes, although it jumps off the skin more than, say, Norne extrait.


If you already own the last iteration of Vikt, I do think you could probably hold off on this one for now, but keeping in mind that the new version is indeed a step up in terms of overall blend and clarity of ingredients. The difference isn't quite as profound as what we saw with the Ore EdP to Ore extrait transformation, but then again, that was an especially impressive overhaul. Style-wise, this is probably most closely aligned to Norne, Mare, and maybe Grev as far as general aesthetic groupings go, but the quality and tastefulness of the blend is on par with the last Ore as well as the forthcoming Zahd.

So, hopefully this helps a little. And if you have any specific questions about the scent, I'll do my best to field them. Cheers!

Thank you so much deadidol for this amazing side-by-side, your work is very much appreciated!
 

chili_willi

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Feb 9, 2012
Do any of you "in the know" Slumberhousers have any information about his annual big sale? I think on the old thread, I remember it being said that every November, Josh does a very significant sale, something like 25-30% off. Can anyone elaborate if that is in fact going to happen this month? I just don't want to miss it, hahahahaha. Thanks in advance

Anybody?
 

magnus611

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Jul 16, 2013
Perfume House "SlumberHouse" : Their "TopDog" Fragrance..

I'm not familiar with this house but will get acquainted with her soon, just trying to evaluate my fellow baseNoter's pick as thee "Top Dog" in this house, or frag that most exemplify the face of SlumberHouse : reason I'm asking is because I will probably or most likely start with the most picked (I know it could be subjective)just rating their perfume among y'all....as It is apparent I couldn't start a poll apparently system did not give me option ....Thx Yall...
 

deadidol

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Jan 19, 2013
Perfume House "SlumberHouse" : Their "TopDog" Fragrance..

Depends on what kind of notes you're into, really. Keep in mind Turin's description of the line, though: "fine improper perfumes." This stuff's weird. With that said, I'd say Norne's probably the most representative, although it's not my personal favorite. For me, Sova, Baque, Norne, Ore, Zahd, Vikt, Jeke, and Grev are the highlights.

I'd say Norne, though, because it's quite possibly the best forest floor scent in circulation, but it also represents his aesthetic quite well. Highly expressionistic splatters of notes that vacillate between bitter and beautiful. The scent wears you in every imaginable way, but it's a worthwhile trip.

Perhaps this would be better suited in the existing Slumberhouse thread where more people will congregate? Plus, these aren't particularly gendered, and many of our female Basenoters are huge proponents of the line. Want me to move it?
 
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Tony T

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Apr 22, 2008
Re: Perfume House "SlumberHouse" : Their "TopDog" Fragrance..

I have only sampled 2- Pear & Olive and Rume

Norne seems the most talked about
 

sjg3839

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Aug 21, 2012
Re: Perfume House "SlumberHouse" : Their "TopDog" Fragrance..

The only one I sampled was Ore (Thanks JH). Great fragrance.
 

badarun

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Jan 15, 2013
Re: Perfume House "SlumberHouse" : Their "TopDog" Fragrance..

Agree with deadidol... What got me going were Norne, Jeke, Vikt, Rume, Grev, Sova... These to me are the face of Slumberhouse.

Ore and the soon to be released Zahd are both wonderful, but crowd pleasing type of fragrances, so if I were you, I'd go with any mentione in my first line...
 

The_Cologneist

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Feb 27, 2010
Re: Perfume House "SlumberHouse" : Their "TopDog" Fragrance..

Norne is amazing. I really wanna try Ore though, it looks fantastic. The entire house looks great.
 

chopwet

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Jun 14, 2012
Re: Perfume House "SlumberHouse" : Their "TopDog" Fragrance..

I've tried a few and Jeke is my favourite although I like Vikt too. Pear and Olive is my least favourite and I feel as if it doesn't fit in well with the rest.
 

OctaVariuM

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Jul 28, 2012
Re: Perfume House "SlumberHouse" : Their "TopDog" Fragrance..

I'd suggest you take a look at the full Slumberhouse thread.

It's hard to pick a top dog. Norne gets the most recognition in the community in general, but I'd recommend checking out Sova or Ore to get a good idea of what the line is all about (at least lately).
 

Birdboy48

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Jul 10, 2011
I have an old "silver Sharpie" bottle of Sana, and will be interested in seeing what's been done with it now. The stuff I have is quite a bit different than his other things : less persistent and probably a bit more conventional and less challenging than his recent output, so it will be interesting to see if the new version resembles the older stuff at all.
 

deadidol

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Jan 19, 2013
Hey all,

Per the request of the OP, I've merged the "Slumberhouse Top Dog" thread that was started today into the existing thread. It starts with post #48 by Magnus who's asking for suggestions on where to begin with the brand. Hopefully the merger is somewhat seamless :) Also, as a reminder, once we get the Huddler data back, I'll merge this thread into the pre-existing and extensive Slumberhouse thread.

As choosing where to begin is tough, here's a general overview of what you can expect from each one:

Norne = Coniferous forest floor with incense
Sova = A boozy, dirty romp in the hay
Baque = Creamy apricots with smoke and balmy resins
Zahd = Berries and champa over a sandal wood and attar base
Grev = Bracing clove scent that reminds of an icy stream
Ore = Musky cocoa over rich sandalwood base
Jeke = Leather and tobacco over resins and creamy benzoin
Vikt = Licorice and incense over saps and resins
P+O = Dry pear with a creamy, oily component
Brosse = Dense, salty gourmand that mixes savory and sweet notes
Sana = Leather and tagetes
Flou = Slightly floral, grape type notes
Eki = Fairly sweet white floral
Kere = A food-y, curried immortelle
Kote = Clementine over mahogany for a polished wood effect
Mare = Highly vegetal vetiver

There are some more, but I think this covers the main releases.
 
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OctaVariuM

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Jul 28, 2012
Goddamn it, I don't have the money for all of this new stuff being put out. I already got money tied up in Zahd, and I wanna get Norne and Jeke...and now three more are rereleased.

I'll have to try and get samples. I'm slightly surprised he didn't email me and let me know :/.
 

rowan-

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Dec 30, 2012
As choosing where to begin is tough, here's a general overview of what you can expect from each one:

Norne = Coniferous forest floor with incense
Sova = A boozy, dirty romp in the hay
Baque = Creamy apricots with smoke and balmy resins
Zahd = Berries and champa over a sandal wood and attar base
Grev = Bracing clove scent that reminds of an icy stream
Ore = Musky cocoa over rich sandalwood base
Jeke = Leather and tobacco over resins and creamy benzoin
Vikt = Licorice and incense over saps and resins
P+O = Dry pear with a creamy, oily component
Brosse = Dense, salty gourmand that mixes savory and sweet notes
Sana = Leather and tagetes
Flou = Slightly floral, grape type notes
Eki = Fairly sweet white floral
Kere = A food-y, curried immortelle
Kote = Clementine over mahogany for a polished wood effect
Mare = Highly vegetal vetiver

This is a fantastic precis of the line. I vote that it be stickied somewhere, ready to be whipped out whenever anyone wants to know where to begin.
 

JiveHippo

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Jul 6, 2011
Anxiously awaiting my bottle of Zahd! Tempted to order samples of the new ones, but I'll wait and see what's included with Zahd. :)
 

Sea Roses

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Nov 6, 2011
Hey all,

Per the request of the OP, I've merged the "Slumberhouse Top Dog" thread that was started today into the existing thread. It starts with post #48 by Magnus who's asking for suggestions on where to begin with the brand. Hopefully the merger is somewhat seamless :) Also, as a reminder, once we get the Huddler data back, I'll merge this thread into the pre-existing and extensive Slumberhouse thread.

As choosing where to begin is tough, here's a general overview of what you can expect from each one:

Norne = Coniferous forest floor with incense
Sova = A boozy, dirty romp in the hay
Baque = Creamy apricots with smoke and balmy resins
Zahd = Berries and champa over a sandal wood and attar base
Grev = Bracing clove scent that reminds of an icy stream
Ore = Musky cocoa over rich sandalwood base
Jeke = Leather and tobacco over resins and creamy benzoin
Vikt = Licorice and incense over saps and resins
P+O = Dry pear with a creamy, oily component
Brosse = Dense, salty gourmand that mixes savory and sweet notes
Sana = Leather and tagetes
Flou = Slightly floral, grape type notes
Eki = Fairly sweet white floral
Kere = A food-y, curried immortelle
Kote = Clementine over mahogany for a polished wood effect
Mare = Highly vegetal vetiver

There are some more, but I think this covers the main releases.

Arghhhh too many I want to try.

Deadidol tell Josh we need a sampler set ASAP.

Try being bossy for once, and tell him it is required and as friend you demand it!
 

deadidol

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Jan 19, 2013
A couple of quick updates:

I'd guessed that the new Vikt contained sandalwood in my analysis of it, and indeed, it's got a lot of sandalwood in there as well as some attars that are quite similar to those that are in Zahd.

Sana and Mare are exactly the same as they've always been, but both are actually quite close to selling out. Vikt is in good supply, but it won't be recreated for similar reasons to Zahd.

Last, there will be a sale. Details will be coming soon on that one :) It's essentially a way to clear through some of the last of the current bottle stock in preparation for the new design. Given this, the sale might come and go quite fast depending on supply.
 

Sea Roses

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Nov 6, 2011
Hello again Deadidol,

are you going to suggest a sampler set for us plebs?

The two I have (and the little samples) are fabulous but I want more please sir!

regards

searoses
 

deadidol

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Jan 19, 2013
Hi Sea Roses!

He's sort of phased out sampler sets as they were so time consuming to make (remember, it's just one guy doing everything by hand). Luckyscent and a couple of other distributors took over the handling of smaller samples, and the plan was to maybe sell 4ml samples for a little more. I think they're still available for purchase, but aren't advertised (I think Rowan- outlined why).

Also, keep in mind that the above list is more of a reference sheet for scents that come and go. What's part of the line right now is Norne, Jeke, P+O, and Ore. Vikt is a limited reissue.

Hope that helps!
 

1adam12

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May 6, 2013
I tried using the contact form on the website a few days ago. I was asking about samples of Sana, as the Vikt + Mare sample set just became available. I haven't heard back, but the juice of Sana might be too limited for samples as deadidol suggests. Kinda bummed I haven't gotten a reply, though.

Either way, I'll probably order the samples that are available next week. Looking forward to trying them.

EDIT: And deadidol answered my question whilst typing. Thank you.
 

Sea Roses

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Nov 6, 2011
Thanks deadidol,

Really disappointed to know that they once existed.

It's a very addictive line and a bit frustrating that in the UK there is only a smaller selection......but Roullier White seem to be doing what they can to get a bigger selection.

Well done to him.....they are wonderful scents! My Sova is disappearing fast!!!!!!!!

And thanks very much for compiling the reference list.....very much appreciated.

kind regards

searoses
 

Sea Roses

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Nov 6, 2011
Sova is still around isn't it???????

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UK people, Sova and Norne are still at Roullier White........the other three are also great but these are really standouts.

Would suggest buying a sample if you can!

searoses
 

deadidol

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Jan 19, 2013
Sova is still around isn't it???????
Sova's been discontinued due to availability issues with the materials. Sadly, that's the nature of the line as he uses some pretty out there stuff. Vikt won't be remade after this batch, either. Zahd was released as a limited run of about 150 bottles or so, but sold out in less than a day. It's also one that won't be remade in this formulation as the central attar was commissioned just for this release.
 

evogel

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Jan 23, 2003
The Vikt Extrait is absolutely stellar. I strongly urge people to give this one a try even if you didn't like the the older, Vikt EdP.

This reworking is so smooth and round and it loses the vegetal and sharp aspects of the EdP. Licorice/Incense as Deadidol describes it is right on but it is much more than just that. I think that it may appeal to those that like Ore, Jeke and even perhaps Sova and Norne.

Amazing stuff but I'm not surprised!

Eric
 

james1051

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Jul 23, 2013
thanks for the info DI. Do you know, or anyone else, if the Vikt being offered on the SH website is the new polished version or the original?
I couldn't tell. Sent them an email about it, still waiting for reply.

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oh and, any retailers in the States with Sova still in stock?
thx again,
 

deadidol

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Jan 19, 2013
The Vikt on the website is indeed the new version. Sana might be lurking around a few online boutiques, but it's also available through the website as well (although the remaining stock is exceptionally low).

Oh, sorry -- I see you wrote Sova. I'm not sure, but you might check with Luckyscent or Twisted Lily.
 

Akahina

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Jun 9, 2011
Josh usually responds to my emails within a few days. Have not received any message from him since the pre-sale of Zahd. No tweets on twitter either. I am sure he is busy, or taking some time off before the release of Zahd. On the other hand I am so excited to get this new special fragrance that I can hardly stand it! Do you have any fresh inside information from Josh deadidol? Wondering if he got his new bottles...
 

rynegne

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Jul 25, 2012
DEADIDOL - Thanks for the write-up. I am extremely interested in the new Vikt, but I still have a 15ml of the old stuff...so I guess I'll hold onto the old bottle for a while as it's super potent and will probably last me quite a while. I'm not too sure I like the fact the licorice/ginger snap vibe is amped up while the vegetal/metallic qualities are toned down...they are what I really liked about the old juice. The hardcore tenacity of the scent really mellows out after 6 or 7 hours and lays closer to the skin, creating a really nice scent.

Mare sounds super interesting to me as I'm a huge vetiver fan...However, I've heard from others that it's not exactly a vetiver? I like something different like LesNez Turtle Vetiver BACK...but I'd be buying Mare specifically for a quality vetiver representation and not something otherwise.

I'd love to get samples of Mare and Vikt, however, $17 seems a little steep for just 2ml of juice. I don't know if I'm being too stingy, I know Josh is a super generous generous guy. But I have to say I wasn't really impressed with Zahd. I found it to be extremely linear and kind of boring and I'd rather not spend the money if this is the direction the latest rounds of fragrances is going. And, I'm not sure if anyone would agree...but I can say the Extraits that I've bought blindly were a huge step down from the EDP versions that I had prior.



Black Friday is on the 29th this year and Cyber Monday is on December 2nd, that would be my guess...I think last year the sale was run on the 22nd. I'm sure Josh's very busy, even more so than last year....so who knows if we'll see one.

 
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markc

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Mar 27, 2006
My fear and guess is that it'll end up lasting about as long as the recent fragrancenet sale of Amouage, under 2 hours. I remember reading about it on the old thread, and my excitement was building up because the sale % was pretty significant. I was planning on picking up a minimum of 1 100 ml bottle and possibly smaller bottles of other stuff, but from what the knowledgeable deadidol hinted at, I'm not expecting much. Wish I had heard of Slumberhouse a year ago hahahaha


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deadidol

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Josh usually responds to my emails within a few days. Have not received any message from him since the pre-sale of Zahd. No tweets on twitter either. I am sure he is busy, or taking some time off before the release of Zahd. On the other hand I am so excited to get this new special fragrance that I can hardly stand it! Do you have any fresh inside information from Josh deadidol? Wondering if he got his new bottles...

Sorry, I've been gone all day and am just getting to this now. Josh is super busy with a bunch of stuff as well preparing for the sale. Zahd's ready to go, but it's just a matter of waiting for the packaging to be finished. He doesn't have a specific date as of yet (obviously he wants it ASAP), but it's looking more like the end of December as of right now. I know he'll release some updates as soon as he knows something more concrete.

DEADIDOL - Thanks for the write-up. I am extremely interested in the new Vikt, but I still have a 15ml of the old stuff...so I guess I'll hold onto the old bottle for a while as it's super potent and will probably last me quite a while. I'm not too sure I like the fact the licorice/ginger snap vibe is amped up while the vegetal/metallic qualities are toned down...they are what I really liked about the old juice. The hardcore tenacity of the scent really mellows out after 6 or 7 hours and lays closer to the skin, creating a really nice scent.

Mare sounds super interesting to me as I'm a huge vetiver fan...However, I've heard from others that it's not exactly a vetiver? I like something different like LesNez Turtle Vetiver BACK...but I'd be buying Mare specifically for a quality vetiver representation and not something otherwise.

No ginger snaps in Vikt. The central composition is pretty much the same and instantly recognizable, but there's a grip of sandalwood and some new attars in there now. The licorice effect is a combo of ravensara, anise, fennel, and a few other things. It's a step up in that the composition now has much more breathing room and the overall aesthetic is refined.

As far as Mare goes, I find it to be unpleasant personally. If you liked the vegetal notes of the old Vikt, this is where they went! It's vetiver, yes, but not like what you'd fine in more commercial, palatable vetivers. This is a vegetal, and is almost putrid smelling.

I'd love to get samples of Mare and Vikt, however, $17 seems a little steep for just 2ml of juice. I don't know if I'm being too stingy, I know Josh is a super generous generous guy. But I have to say I wasn't really impressed with Zahd. I found it to be extremely linear and kind of boring and I'd rather not spend the money if this is the direction the latest rounds of fragrances is going. And, I'm not sure if anyone would agree...but I can say the Extraits that I've bought blindly were a huge step down from the EDP versions that I had prior.

You might want to check the sample size as I think it was increased to the 4ml bottles before they were pulled from the site (are they even still up there?) Zahd's by far the most developed and complex thing he's produced. It took about two years to finish and went through many iterations before it ended up where it is now. On me, it's controlled in that the overall profile is more stabilized with smoother transitions, but it's still mercurial in that the berries and the champa vacillate back and forth in a way that I've never really experienced in perfume before. And this is indeed a direction shift in that he's moved away extreme volume and projection to something a more tasteful and civilized. While I do love the old EdP's, the polish that I've seen in Ore, Zahd, and now Vikt doesn't just represent a step forward, it's a leap. The unusual and rare materials that were expressionistically deployed in the past are now being refined for a much more impressive product overall. While some might view it as a taming down of the line, the materials and blends are as weird as ever, only now they're just more tastefully rendered.

Black Friday is on the 29th this year and Cyber Monday is on December 2nd, that would be my guess...I think last year the sale was run on the 22nd. I'm sure Josh's very busy, even more so than last year....so who knows if we'll see one.

It should be the day after thanksgiving. If anything changes, I'll post it. It might not run as long as it has in the past though as his bottle stock is slightly limited.
 

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