Sandalwood like base

[Gadgets82]

Im new and looking for a "sandalwood" like base, im trying to decide between santaliff, sandela 85, sandalore, MAYBE javanol (im not sure being that its more powerful than the others how much to order for experimentation)
Any input is appreciated

 

[pkiler]

These are not bases, but single molecules.
If you want a base, you can look for the Dreamwood base, or Sandalwood Givco, or Sandalwood Oliffac.

 

[Gadgets82]

These are not bases, but single molecules.
If you want a base, you can look for the Dreamwood base, or Sandalwood Givco, or Sandalwood Oliffac.

Ah ok, so then im looking for a sandalwood molecule. I get the terminology mixed up sometimes

 

[jfrater]

If you want a single molecule go for sandalore. Otherwise a mix of ebanol and bacdanol is good. Polysantol is one of my favourites but it is powerful. Dartanol is laevo-bacdanol and is very elegant and can be used at a higher dose. Sandela is very mild and works best as a fixative for other more interesting sandalwoods.

Bear in mind both sandalore and polysantol are restricted by IFRA if you care about that - 1.1% and 1.2% respectively IIRC.

This is my list from another post the other day, of my top five sandalwoods:

1. Polysantol (beautiful odour + power - perceptible at even 0.5% or less)
2. Javanol (beautiful odour + power - perceptible at even 0.5% or less)
3. Dartanol - AKA Laevo Bacdanol (all purpose)
4. Sandela (fixation)
5. Hindinol (top notes - beautiful - perceptible at even 0.5% or less)

Firsantol is also great - 0.5% of a total formula can be all you need under some circumstances. I tend to use this a little like dextro norlimbanol - a little goes a long way. Synergy with polysantol.

 

[Gadgets82]

If you want a single molecule go for sandalore. Otherwise a mix of ebanol and bacdanol is good. Polysantol is one of my favourites but it is powerful. Dartanol is laevo-bacdanol and is very elegant and can be used at a higher dose. Sandela is very mild and works best as a fixative for other more interesting sandalwoods.

Bear in mind both sandalore and polysantol are restricted by IFRA if you care about that - 1.1% and 1.2% respectively IIRC.

This is my list from another post the other day, of my top five sandalwoods:

1. Polysantol (beautiful odour + power - perceptible at even 0.5% or less)
2. Javanol (beautiful odour + power - perceptible at even 0.5% or less)
3. Dartanol - AKA Laevo Bacdanol (all purpose)
4. Sandela (fixation)
5. Hindinol (top notes - beautiful - perceptible at even 0.5% or less)

Firsantol is also great - 0.5% of a total formula can be all you need under some circumstances. I tend to use this a little like dextro norlimbanol - a little goes a long way. Synergy with polysantol.

Ok, i think i may go with javanol, in your opinion is the extra cost over sandalore worth it? Ive heard all good things about it.
Yes, although im in the US and IFRA has really no say here, i think as it a good practice to follow, not only for habitual practice but also safety for others (yes i know its "controversial" safety but safety none the less lol)
Thank you for your input its appreciated 😁

 

[ScentAle]

I prefer Javanol than real sandalwood low quality. It is superb.

 

[jfrater]

Ok, i think i may go with javanol, in your opinion is the extra cost over sandalore worth it? Ive heard all good things about it.
Yes, although im in the US and IFRA has really no say here, i think as it a good practice to follow, not only for habitual practice but also safety for others (yes i know its "controversial" safety but safety none the less lol)
Thank you for your input its appreciated 😁

Javanol is an essential in my opinion - I would never be without the five I listed. The main thing with javanol is that if you buy it as your only sandalwood chemical you will really need to keep it below 2% in most formulations. I use sandalwood chemicals up to (and sometimes over) 10% of a whole formula. There are benefits to 100g of sandela in a mix that you can't get with 5g javanol even though it may be perceptible at the top of the scent.

My every day first choice is dartanol (for most people bacdanol suffices - it is the racemic(?) version).

Tom Ford's amber absolute (discontinued) by Christopher Laudamiel used this as its key sandalwood accord:

125 Bacdanol
110 Sandalore (IFRA!)
80 Polysantol (IFRA!)
30 Sanjinoll (this is the the same as Dartanol, the laevo form of bacdanol)
20 Ebanol
15 Javanol

He used them at those levels because of IFRA compliance in a 10% fragrance (note that Tom Ford sells this as a $500 perfume for a 10% strength blend of sandalwood hemicals, 25% vanillin, and 15% labdanum.)