Perry Ellis Oud Black Vanilla Absolute ... now selling for $300

Millionaire

New member
Nov 22, 2015
I'll stick to my Perry Ellis 360 Black, thank you very much! ! Blind bought this last month from a discount store, think it was around $25 for the 3.4 oz. Love it. Love love love love love! :) Its subdued, spicy, mysterious, fresh, and warm all at once!

My other recent favorite is Lomani AB Spirit Millionaire, also a gorgeous, deep, inspiring frag!

And of course, must mention Insurrection Pure II. That's probably a tie with the Lomani for my current favorite. :)
 

Bigsly

Basenotes Institution
Feb 20, 2008
So you read my latest blog post? LOL. I've got my $2 bottle of Cuba Royal to comfort me in this hour of price insanity!
 

Tmoran

Basenotes Dependent
Feb 15, 2014
Its a damn good fragrance and the presentation is better than many $300 bottles. But having bought it for $48 shipped and having seen it as low as $37 shipped I would never be able to pay those stupid prices. And considering how fast it initially sold out I highly doubt its being discontinued any time soon. Patience people. Sometimes the Re-bayers really transcend wishful thinking into full on stupid.
 

magnus611

Basenotes Dependent
Jul 16, 2013
BeautySpin will hopefully have this Perry Ellis Scent soon but does anyone have a discount better then 10% off for this site????
 
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SexySmells

New member
Dec 25, 2014
If this is true and people on ebay are in collusion to spike up prices, it will be no different than what they've done to say Patou pour Homme. Prices are flat out retarded and the items sit there, week after week with no takers.
 

Stache

Basenotes Dependent
Feb 17, 2015
I highly doubt that. But if you show me a pic I'll eat my words.


But yes, patience people. It will return. Nobody should even consider the ridiculous prices they're asking on eBay.

lol, picture of what? I can assure you I've already bought a couple of bottles from a local outfit that stocks one at a time. I hit both stores to pick up both, but ended up selling them (for a loss). Might have to run back and get more to flip. You can check my post history for pics of what I bought.

But if you're wondering if they're actually selling for stupid prices on Ebay, here's some completed listings that actually sold.

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bigbz

Basenotes Dependent
Apr 30, 2013

SexySmells

New member
Dec 25, 2014
This frag is barely worth it's original price tag and completely overrated from the get-go from unwarranted hype.
 

Bigsly

Basenotes Institution
Feb 20, 2008
Names don't seem to mean anything, and that's been true for a while, such as the prices for V Valentino Men. The thing here is that one would expect them to make a lot more bottles soon, and I doubt they will raise wholesale prices substantially, especially considering there's' no "special ingredient" in there, and just like with Aventus, a bunch of "clones" of SDV can follow suit from other companies. I've got too much vanilla-dominant scents and didn't like SDV all that much when I sampled it, so I find this rather amusing. At least with Aventus it was a bit different, if not especially complex.
 

Tmoran

Basenotes Dependent
Feb 15, 2014
Looks like we need more members to start splitting SDV.

Well some including me prefer the perry ellis to sdv.

If this is true and people on ebay are in collusion to spike up prices, it will be no different than what they've done to say Patou pour Homme. Prices are flat out retarded and the items sit there, week after week with no takers.

I kinda feel that way about your sotd. It just kinda shows everyone here likes something different. I dont really think either fragrance is hyped just because you or I dont like it. And really isnt an item worth what soneone is willing to pay? Some (and im not saying you) seem to abuse the term when they blind buy it based on reviews and/or overpays like the ebayers are and when they dont like it. That can happen even with the most expensive of scents.
 
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Stache

Basenotes Dependent
Feb 17, 2015
Got back from my hookup. The guy has 4 bottles of it in stock, willing to offload to me for 50 bucks each.

I'm tempted to buy and flip... Hmmmm.
 

Stache

Basenotes Dependent
Feb 17, 2015
^ I dunno. I hate those greedy dudes that do that, but .... seeing them go for $100 markup is tempting. That means I can use that profit for a nice score of other fragrances. Obviously I'd go for as much as I can, but I don't think anyone's paying $150+ for this stuff. Not sure what that $300 guy is thinking pricing it so high... So, maybe $125 or so? Not sure.
 

Bigsly

Basenotes Institution
Feb 20, 2008
^ I dunno. I hate those greedy dudes that do that, but .... seeing them go for $100 markup is tempting. That means I can use that profit for a nice score of other fragrances. Obviously I'd go for as much as I can, but I don't think anyone's paying $150+ for this stuff. Not sure what that $300 guy is thinking pricing it so high... So, maybe $125 or so? Not sure.

Well, I could see one seller getting a friend/relative to list it at a much higher price to generate "hype" and give potential buyers the sense that it's "going through the roof" so they had better get that "great deal" at $200 or whatever. But the idea that PE isn't going to make more is ridiculous, so what the buyers at over $100 are thinking is beyond me, like they don't have any vanilla-dominant scents already and/or can't get one at a cheap price (Remy Latour's Black Oud being one)! LOL.
 

hanginglimbs

Basenotes Junkie
Mar 9, 2015
I doubt anyone is spending more than maybe $75-100 tops per bottle. I've been doing 10 ml decants for $10 each plus shipping. I paid $45 maybe for my bottle.

This fragrance won't be unavailable for long. It will be back in a month or two and sell for $60
 

hanginglimbs

Basenotes Junkie
Mar 9, 2015
If those sales are real...vomit. I do often see sales that I question. For example, one seller was selling a 250 ml bottle of Polo Modern Reserve. That item went a long time and finally was purchased near expiration date. A few days later, the same seller puts up the same item with an identical description, down to the same description of the box damage, etc.

Not to say that there is a conspiracy among sellers of this fragrance, haha, I would just rather believe that than believe people are paying so much for this fragrance!!
 

Stache

Basenotes Dependent
Feb 17, 2015
Ever wonder if those sales are legit?

No. As an over 800-feedback Ebay seller myself, I've never considered resorting to having friends/family fake buys from me. You just gotta consider the whole scenario (timing, seller, buyers). And in this case, I think people were paying these prices at the pinnacle of the hype, right around the end of 2015 and first week of January when Youtube videos appeared alongside Basenotes threads talking it up. Personally, I think the hype has died down as people sampled and some found the performance lacking on this fragrance (I know I did).

It's a wonderful smell, but really only worth the $50 price range it should go for. And like we know, it should come back into stock on the discount sites eventually.

Then again, as a smart seller I also know there's a ton of people out there with disposable income who want what they want and they want it now. So price-gouging them is a worthwhile tactic as well.
 

Bigsly

Basenotes Institution
Feb 20, 2008
I would question those sales if I hadn't seen so many over the last few years that were similar, such as for Stetson Country and V Valentino Men. I wrote up at least one detailed blog post on the subject, saying that if you do a little completed item searching you'll see that it's not reasonable to claim that all such sales are false. In fact, I've sold some vintage there and was surprised by the "high" prices that resulted some of the time. Considering what is available at local dept. stores and what the prices are, is it any surprise that people would spend that amount or a bit more for something they consider special and scare? Those who question the reality of at least many of these sales don't seem to understand collectibles markets at all, and in this case it's not just a collectibles market, because it has the added "personal grooming"/presentation element, and the more possible reasons people have to buy an item the higher the prices usually go!
 

HankHarvey

Basenotes Dependent
Jul 15, 2014
If those sales are real...vomit. I do often see sales that I question. For example, one seller was selling a 250 ml bottle of Polo Modern Reserve. That item went a long time and finally was purchased near expiration date. A few days later, the same seller puts up the same item with an identical description, down to the same description of the box damage, etc.

Not to say that there is a conspiracy among sellers of this fragrance, haha, I would just rather believe that than believe people are paying so much for this fragrance!!

Exactly the same experience I've had. People seem to have a revolving door supply of certain items. I dealt with one guy on there who must have had an IP bounce like TOR or something, and multiple eBay accounts, because it always looked like he was selling, yet the same items would reappear days or even weeks later - priced even higher. Then I see in this thread a mentality of "it's expensive, maybe I should buy it and re-sell it for more as fast as possible" . . . makes me think even the sales that are legit aren't being made between people who want to wear and enjoy the fragrance. There is probably some people who would pay over $150 for this Perry Ellis. If they exist, wouldn't some of them be here, on basenotes, participating in this very thread? I don't get it. Who are these phantom buyers and where do they hang out?
 

Stache

Basenotes Dependent
Feb 17, 2015
I don't get it. Who are these phantom buyers and where do they hang out?

They're Youtube consumers. They listen to Fragboy Stewie call this a perfect clone of Guerlain Spirituese Double Vanille (a $250+ fragrance) and fall in line. When he says he "can't imagine they're selling it for whatever they're selling it for" and it's mesmerizing, really good, gosh, WOW, etc. they rush to scoop it up when they find it sold out on the discount sites.

Problem with basing your buys on Youtube reviews are oftentimes you're hearing reviewers in their honeymoon phase of a fragrance. It's new, they're in love, they've only had it at most a week and so they hype. There's really only one review on this one currently on Youtube. Everything else is first impression videos. So the hype started here on Basenotes, Youtube reviewers read the threads and order the bottle, open and review on Youtube ... and now it's hyped in that medium.

You really need to branch out across blogs and forums and Youtube to get a real sense of the range of opinions on a fragrance. These phantom buyers are more than likely just Youtube viewers and some Basenoters (don't forget we had our own hyped thread here).
 

Tmoran

Basenotes Dependent
Feb 15, 2014
I think if you read a bunch of blogs and written reviews you just get more opinions. The only REAL way to get an understanding of a fragrance is to wear it. And I don't mean spray it on a test card and generate an opinion a couple hours later. But I am getting sick of blogs and people constantly plugging them. That has its own brand of hype and It makes me not want to read it.
 

silentrich

Basenotes Dependent
May 27, 2009
It's Perry Ellis. The name alone disqualifies it from the three figure club.

Just giving this fragrance the benefit of the doubt that it could possibly be even anywhere near the quality of this level of Guerlain fragrance is a fools proposition. This is freaking Perry Ellis we're talking about right? I could see if it was an indie house or even Cologne of the Missions which is actually a serviceable, albeit inferior substitute, but even that is only around $48. Are YouTube and their facebook groups buying this stuff at these prices?
 
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bigbynum

Super Member
Mar 9, 2015
Flipping products is nothing new. Just look at the footwear industry. It's crazy to see sneakers selling for more than a grand when retail is less sub $300
 

HankHarvey

Basenotes Dependent
Jul 15, 2014
They're Youtube consumers.

With all due respect, Stache, I'm just not believing that, not even a little bit. The newbies on youtube aren't plunking $200+ or even $150+ on a Perry Ellis that isn't worth any more than $60 a bottle. Maybe another brand, but this is a company that can't even make a decent shirt for $25. And guys posting eBay spots for $300+ a bottle aren't playing with a full deck. Again, this is basenotes. Where people who love perfume enough to spend this kind of money on something if it's rare and worth it would be. There may have been a hype thread before, but how many of those people would spend this kind of money? Where are all the enthusiastic "hell yeahs" in this thread?

Just giving this fragrance the benefit of the doubt that it could possibly be even anywhere near the quality of this level of Guerlain fragrance is a fools proposition. This is freaking Perry Ellis we're talking about right? I could see if it was an indie house or even Cologne of the Missions which is actually a serviceable, albeit inferior substitute, but even that is only around $48. Are YouTube and their facebook groups buying this stuff at these prices?

Exactly. The answer is No.

I'd even say that perhaps some of the Youtube "reviewers" (although certainly not all) are trying to sell their bottles, which were purchased when prices were reasonable, at these new insane prices. Maybe the "review" vids are meant to excite people into buying at the mark-up. Wouldn't be a half bad strategy, if enough people were that crazy.
 
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