NEW Serge Lutens Des clous pour une pelure

Nastka

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Mar 6, 2011
Google translate says that the meaning in English is 'nails for a peel'. Perhaps this will smell like a pomander?
 

Birdboy48

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Jul 10, 2011
Oh boy, here we go with Lutens again. A new frag that will live up to their glories of old, or….?

Hope springs eternal I guess.
 

Andy the frenchy

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Sep 16, 2018
Google translate says that the meaning in English is 'nails for a peel'.

That's correct. Cloves in French are called "Clous de Girofle" (litterally "Girofle Nails").

It's typical around Xmas to put cloves on mandarins to have the room "smell of Xmas", and this frag will thus be a mandarin/cloves combo. Given my love for Serge Noire, and my appreciation of Fleurs d'Oranger, I can't wait to try this one!
 

tilleuil

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Basenotes Plus
Nov 21, 2019
Will have a look for it next time I’m in Holt’s, but not holding my breath.

The Holt's in Toronto has it out already so Holt's in Mtl most likely will as well. On the smelling strip, it smelled zingy and spicy and fruity, but a bit 'young'? If my 21-year-old cousin had been wearing it, it would have been a nice choice, but I didn't really want to spend more time getting to know the fragrance better if that makes sense.
 

zachong

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Feb 3, 2016
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I'm not sure if its related to the new fragrance at all, but Serge Lutens' latest Instagram posts remind me of my JRPGs. Not sure where they are going with this.
 

AntonPan

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May 8, 2008
Outstanding fragrance. Juicy and sweet oranges from the start, classy neo-fougere base that reminds me of Viking with the same presence of ambroxan. Very beautiful.
 

Nastka

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Mar 6, 2011
It seems only AntonPan and Hednic have smelled it. I haven't received my sample yet.

I bought it as part of the Eau de politesse discovery / travel kit not long ago. I tried it once, and it seemed very pleasant. I'll need to give it a whirl soon, despite the weather not being ideal for it...
 

le mouchoir de monsieur

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May 4, 2010
I was thinking the same thing. Or for that matter Secret Melange by MPG.

Did anyone mention that in the context of meaning here, "pelure" can also suggest a fuzzy skin, like a peach or a kiwi? I have remained uninterested in Serge since we had our falling out so I am always fascinated by his unending self-indulgence: I was told by mutual friends he art directed de Profundis for his funeral which, when he did it, he was certain to be not far off: I walked by his offices in Palais Royal and there were all of these morbid images and purple juice filled bottles. Now this. Nails stuck in a fuzzy skin. What gives? It's been awhile since I have been convinced Serge is spending too much time in Morocco doing what one does best there. Perhaps someone had piercings? I'm confused.

Pelure d'oignon is also a colour--sort of an burnt orange.
 

le mouchoir de monsieur

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May 4, 2010
I am imagining that nobody is buying the obvious "clou {de girofle}" (clove) for a "pelure" (oft meaning peel) of orange? Or have things devolved into that level of first degree? It seems so odd for this to be something based on a pomander then be "Je Reviens" blue. Does it smell blue?
 

mikeperez23

Be Here. Now.
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Dec 31, 2006
I am imagining that nobody is buying the obvious "clou {de girofle}" (clove) for a "pelure" (oft meaning peel) of orange? Or have things devolved into that level of first degree?

They are, most reviews mention the orange. Or at the very least they're mentioning it in a double-entendre sort of way. Alas...if it smells like oranges and cloves I'm interested.
 

cheapimitation

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May 15, 2015
I just watched Persolaise's review and it does look promising.

One of the commenters enlightens us on the genius of Luten's puns:
"So...here goes: Des Clous Pour Une Pelure is a triple entendre! It could mean, cloves for a skin (pomander); nails for the peeling (DIY stylee); or wearing nails as a coat (a punk orange wearing a coat of nails). Phew! Why does Serge do this to us?! Lol."

I love that his names are often "inside jokes" for French speakers (like the recent "fils de joie")

 

le mouchoir de monsieur

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May 4, 2010
They are, most reviews mention the orange. Or at the very least they're mentioning it in a double-entendre sort of way. Alas...if it smells like oranges and cloves I'm interested.

I looked on different databases and it would appear that this does smell of mandarine and clove. It's wrapped up in such a strange "habit" first being blue, then being in the new and (apparently improved) "Eaux de Politesse" range (Would polite suggest the Japanese market, where it is rude to smell of anything?) that also includes re-vamps such as 2016's melancholy "Gris Clair," saying now that it dates to 2019. Le Monde Selon Serge has always been of his own invention. There is one from Santa Maria di Novella that smells EXACTLY like a pomander. Not sure which one it is.....I'm so intrigued by the so very unusual pool water blue of this which is a very unusual colour for Serge who has a distinctive colour palette around him, always, never involving blue. Especially that blue.

 

le mouchoir de monsieur

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May 4, 2010
I doubt that i will listen to the English bloke in the orange shirt wax on about this for 15 minutes but my guess is the jeu de mots involves a very hairy chest with nipple piercings because in no way does "des clous" mean "cloves" if bereft of "de girofle." -- "girofle" means cloves. "Clous" means NAILS (and not fingernails, ever) but as we all know I am a pervert. But so, my friends, is Serge. #trust
 

cheapimitation

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May 15, 2015
Leave poor Persolaise alone! Probably the best reviewer on youtube, he's not just an amateur talking head hyping the latest brand that sent him a sample, but a published author and well respected reviewer who actually knows his stuff yet remains unbiased and not bought out by niche brand freebies. HIs style is his own and I'd rather he has a style even if it isn't to everyone's taste than none at all like most people.

Anyway, he is also humble enough to admit when he doesn't know, and he does plead ignorance as to the meaning of the name in the video. The part I quoted is from the comments section, I assume from a native French speaker who understands the multi-layered pun.

I hope you go ahead and hate watch all his videos to bump up his views! :thumbsup:

I doubt that i will listen to the English bloke in the orange shirt wax on about this for 15 minutes but my guess is the jeu de mots involves a very hairy chest with nipple piercings because in no way does "des clous" mean "cloves" if bereft of "de girofle." -- "girofle" means cloves. "Clous" means NAILS (and not fingernails, ever) but as we all know I am a pervert. But so, my friends, is Serge. #trust
 

le mouchoir de monsieur

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May 4, 2010
Leave poor Persolaise alone! Probably the best reviewer on youtube, he's not just an amateur talking head hyping the latest brand that sent him a sample, but a published author and well respected reviewer who actually knows his stuff yet remains unbiased and not bought out by niche brand freebies. HIs style is his own and I'd rather he has a style even if it isn't to everyone's taste than none at all like most people.

Anyway, he is also humble enough to admit when he doesn't know, and he does plead ignorance as to the meaning of the name in the video. The part I quoted is from the comments section, I assume from a native French speaker who understands the multi-layered pun.

I hope you go ahead and hate watch all his videos to bump up his views! :thumbsup:

No--I don't need to watch videos of novice perfume fanciers talking about perfume, however respected they may be. In fact, I've never seen more than 5 seconds of a youtube video created with the sole intent of discussing a perfume in platitudes and obviousness designed to whip other perfume fanciers into a buying frenzy. Usually I lose patience, at best, in the first ten seconds. In this case I believe I made it passed the minute mark: A record. I'm perfectly equipped to make my own choices and procure my own samples. It's just odd to witness someone billing themselves as an expert then calling something that is obviously blue "green" and then assuming that "Nails," in French, is also the same word as fingernails, as in English. Doing this live on film: It takes the billing of amateur to whole new level, being so uninformed before appearing on video to be published and adored, but i'm sure he is a trusted ally of you all, whoever he is. Before a supplicant throws himself at a monastery to become a monk novice he is expected to learn ancient Greek in order to read scriptures that are untranslated. I would think that someone who hurls himself into the ether waves to discuss French perfumery would at least be inclined to cultivate even a loose grasp on French. Or that someone who proposes to enlighten us all on matters of taste would know not to wear orange on air when they exhibit a very obvious olive undertone: None of these observations are meant to dissuade you from watching/adoring/worshiping him as you and your interests see fit. They are just quizzical musings on my part. I'm sure he's lovely, whoever he is. That's all.... ;)
 

le mouchoir de monsieur

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May 4, 2010
Potpourri? Although I don't see orange listed.

Have you smelled Secret Melange lmdm? In my opinion it smells EXACTLY like a pomander.

I think it was indeed Pot Pourri by Santa Maria di Novella, Mike--It's a scent that smells perfectly divine on others. I bought a bottle and then promptly gifted it on after attempting to wear it myself: On me it smelled like medicine. I've an elegant ginger haired friend who wears it: A designer, and, on him, it smells *exactly* like a pomander. Pomanders are interesting things: Have you ever made one, Mike? If you haven't you should, since you seem to fancy that vibe, and they are easily enough made. The thing about them is that they only begin to be functional when the orange is perfectly dry, which process takes a very long while. The elements to create them are easy to find. Only patience is the missing link in the making of pomanders, as these really ought to be dried completely before being put anywhere near linen closets or wardrobes: In certain climates during the long drying process they possibly may attract ants.
 

mikeperez23

Be Here. Now.
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Dec 31, 2006
I think it was indeed Pot Pourri by Santa Maria di Novella, Mike--It's a scent that smells perfectly divine on others. I bought a bottle and then promptly gifted it on after attempting to wear it myself: On me it smelled like medicine. I've an elegant ginger haired friend who wears it: A designer, and, on him, it smells *exactly* like a pomander. Pomanders are interesting things: Have you ever made one, Mike? If you haven't you should, since you seem to fancy that vibe, and they are easily enough made. The thing about them is that they only begin to be functional when the orange is perfectly dry, which process takes a very long while. The elements to create them are easy to find. Only patience is the missing link in the making of pomanders, as these really ought to be dried completely before being put anywhere near linen closets or wardrobes: In certain climates during the long drying process they possibly may attract ants.

I thought it might be that one.

I have made a pomander - the smell of a real pomander is quite amazing. It's just so much work.
 

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