NEW: La Collection Celine Haute Parfumerie

imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
Time for some more detailed shots of the fake Celine fragrances.

Left is the real, right is the fake:

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You can see how the fake one has bleeding in the text on the logo.

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The Triomphe logo on the atomizer is a lot more detailed on the real bottle on the left.

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Inside of the cap, the real bottle has more finesse while the fake one has rough spots. The Triomphe logo on the inside of the cap is oriented so that there are two circles left and right of it, and one circle on the bottom of the logo, forming a triangle encasing the Triomphe logo. The orientation of the Triomphe logo on the inside of the cap matches the orientation on the outside of the cap.

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Aside from how, as of now, the fakes are all using the 0Y01 batch code, the font of the text is more bold than the real bottle.
 
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wilfred

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Jan 13, 2016
gonna go back next week and scoop another bottle. probably 'Cologne Francaise' if that's the one i'm remembering.

my Parade is a 1A01 batch, i can notice some sort of difference with the 09 samples. it's not major, if anything the newer one is sharper, which is actually good depending how you look at it (less powdery).
 

imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
my Parade is a 1A01 batch, i can notice some sort of difference with the 09 samples. it's not major, if anything the newer one is sharper, which is actually good depending how you look at it (less powdery).

Okay that's interesting, I have a 2019 bottle, so I am going to look forward to see if I can get a more recent sample to see. Already I'm not sure if I feel much "powder" in Parade, whereas I can notice powder more easily in Saint-Germain-des-Prés and Nightclubbing.
 

wilfred

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Jan 13, 2016
Okay that's interesting, I have a 2019 bottle, so I am going to look forward to see if I can get a more recent sample to see. Already I'm not sure if I feel much "powder" in Parade, whereas I can notice powder more easily in Saint-Germain-des-Prés and Nightclubbing.

maybe 'powder' is the wrong term but it's certainly less creamy feeling from the neroli, more of a bergamot edge as it progresses. better balanced for my taste actually.
 

imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
maybe 'powder' is the wrong term but it's certainly less creamy feeling from the neroli, more of a bergamot edge as it progresses. better balanced for my taste actually.

Okay I tested the range today when I came to pick up my bottle of Saint-Germain-des-Prés. Parade in the store definitely felt sharper than my 2019 bottle. Was able to build some good rapport with the SA and ended up getting three 10 mL samples of Parade (0K01), Nightclubbing (9G01E), Reptile (0C01) even though this is not the norm at all. I'll report back how they compare to my 2019 samples.
 

imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
Okay wearing the 0K01 batch of Parade on skin and I can definitely feel the sharpness manifest as a boost in the freshness of the scent. I think it gives more vibrancy and persistence to the neroli and helps make it feel more like a citrus dominant fragrance that would work beautifully as a summer scent that can be worn year round. There is this warmth I feel from the 2019 batch that I think might not work as well as the 2020 batch as a "summer fragrance" which makes it lean a bit more elegant in my eyes. The 2019 batch feels like the neroli is just there to introduce itself before the scent transitions to the more calming, relaxed spa feeling that I get. The 0K01 batch really smells like a neroli dominant Eau de Cologne fragrance that takes a bit longer to reach the same drydown as the 9M02 batch. Maybe the 2020 batch is "drier" than the slightly "moister/juicier" 2019 batch. I think the drydown really sets Parade apart from other simple neroli fragrances.

Both the 0K01 batch and my 9M02 batch have the same formula code, 14067/A, despite smelling slightly different. I wonder how much was the fragrance actually tweaked based on customer feedback and how much is it just standard batch variations from the naturals in the fragrance. The differences, when zoomed out, is quite minuscule so I don't think it is worth hunting for a 2019 bottle. The recent ones are just as good. I also have to note that I spray my 2019 bottles, while I'm dabbing my 10 mL 2020 sample. So there is a possibility that spraying the 2020 sample would result in a similar speed from opening to drydown as the 2019 batch as the molecules will have more space and not as tightly packed together. I'll do a puddle spray test next time with my 2019 batch so that I can test them both side by side.

Now I'm more sure than ever that Nightclubbing was also either tweaked or smells different due to batch variations. I'm glad I was able to hunt down 2019 batches of all my fragrances. Ignoring how they actually smell like, it just gives me more peace of mind that I have the version that is closest to the one that Hedi approved initially before any customer feedback was received. My Saint-Germain-des-Prés is 9K01A1. Another weirdly formatted batch code.
 
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imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
Hedi's neroli fragrances has always given me this feeling like it smells of tea. I'm not sure exactly what kind of tea, but I get green tea vibes from both Dior Homme Cologne and Parade.

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I've read a reviewer saying that they should have given Parade to Dior to sell at Macy's, but I think it would be a waste of such a beautiful fragrance. Most people shopping fragrances at Macy's probably wouldn't understand it, as they're going in expecting more generic masculine freshies. This is why the original Dior Homme Cologne ended up needing to be discontinued since it wasn't resonating with that type of target audience.
 
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imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
Hedi has always had an obsession with not having the plastic tubing be visible. In his first Cologne collection. The bottles, except the 500 ml bottles, all came with a separate atomizer that you can screw into the bottle. You wouldn't be able to put the cap on if you screwed in the atomizer.

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Then when he launched Dior Homme and Dior Homme Cologne, he inserted a metallic tubing to hide the plastic tube. Personally, I don't think he was that successful in camouflaging the plastic tubing.

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Now that technology has progressed since his Dior fragrances were launched, the plastic tubing in the Celine fragrances are a lot more transparent.

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Sadly, the illusion is lost whenever the tubing is no longer surrounded by the juice.

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imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
Recent campaign photos for the Les Grands Classiques Celine collection really showcases what I consider as the core vision of Celine for women.

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I can see Eau de Californie being a nice match for this look. Warmth. Easy elegance with some edge.

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Saint-Germain-des-Prés is what I would pair with her. It has a youthful quality that matches this private school student look with an edgy side.

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I feel warmth, so Parade and Eau de Californie immediately spring to my mind. Parade for a more classy vibe. Eau de Californie for a more edgy vibe.

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Quite sexy with how unbuttoned the shirt is. Reptile or Eau de Californie would be a good match. I think Reptile would be a more interesting choice as it helps captures the whole vibe a bit better. Eau de Californie might be a bit too low-key for this look.

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Black Tie would be fitting. Spices, woods, dark syrupy vanilla. A little mysterious.

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Cologne Française seems fitting. The fragrance leans cool in "temperature" to me that I think matches this aloof look.

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I would say Cologne Française for this boyish look since it leans masculine while being androgynous.
 

wilfred

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Jan 13, 2016
the SAs in London seemed certain the two remaining fragrances are launching sometime soon likely later half of this year by November.

tried the line extensively and talked at length to one of the SAs but didn't get on with any of them like Parade which is by far the most accessible. in fact Reptle would probably be my #2 over the others. will try the two new ones when they launch but that's my lot for now.
 

imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
the SAs in London seemed certain the two remaining fragrances are launching sometime soon likely later half of this year by November.

This is exciting news! I'm going to see if I can probe some information from my SAs and see if they share the same sentiments.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
Dropped by one Celine store today. I spoke with an SA and she said there are 3 new Celine fragrances coming out, but she doesn't know the timeframe. She doesn't seem the most knowledgeable so I'm not going to blindly believe in what she's saying yet. I'll need to check with some other SAs from other Celine stores to see if there is a consensus or not.

While I was at the mall, I dropped by Frederic Malle, Maison Francis Kurkdjian, and Le Labo stores. I sampled a portion of fragrances from each house and I now can say with 100% certainty that Hedi's Celine Haute Parfumerie line is absolutely unique and niche. Nothing quite compares to Hedi's creative direction.

However, I do have to say that Baccarat Rouge reminded me of Black Tie in the way how I get anosmic to both, and I feel like I detect similar aromachemicals used in both. I'm more certain than ever that Hedi tapped Francis Kurkdjian again to make Black Tie, the successor to his Eau Noire, . Overall, I wasn't wow'd by any of Francis Kurkdjian's own house. The scents were executed beautifully and smells elegant and expensive, but they felt too beautiful and boring.

The opening of Musc Ravageur turned me off immediately, so I didn't even give it a chance to see if there are any similarities with Reptile. At first, Vetiver Extraordinare seemed like a great alternative to Parade. They both had that nice bright clean opening without being detergent soapy. Sadly, as Vetiver Extraordinare dried down, it turned less bright and more "deep", which I didn't really prefer. I revisited L'eau d'Hiver and it is just inferior in every way to Cologne Blanche. I got a good feel over Frederic Malle's own style, so I didn't bother sampling the rest of the line. They all smelled well executed and expensive.

At Le Labo, I focused on Thé Noir 29 and Patchouli 24. Both I would consider "edgy" and "badass", but they felt a little bit too ostentatious and lacked elegance and refinement. They felt clunky. Hedi was rumoured to be wearing Le Labo Thé Noir 29 and Rose 31 while he was in LA during his Saint Laurent tenure. I can see how it could fit his style, but I don't like the smell enough to justify buying anything from Le Labo. Cologne Française's fig note really reminds me of the fig in Thé Noir 29, rather than in Philosykos.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
Celine’s current designs are based almost entirely on the French style of the 1970s, with its typical codes and patterns, but the fragrance collection also blends in seamlessly with this line, reviving the classic French perfumery of the era. The compositions make use of classic notes that can be found in the French perfumery of the 1970s, like iris root, moss, bergamot and sandalwood.

I was always curious what this meant. What did French fragrances from the 1970s smell like? How does it differ from what's available to the market today? I was reading Luca Turn's book and this part about the history of fragrances intrigued me.

“So much intensity and artificiality did not fit in the portrait-mode fragrance of the seventies. Eighties fragrances were now like a garish TV in a bar, playing for everyone in the room whether you watched it or not. The first to go fully widescreen was Guerlain’s Samsara, featuring Firmenich’s powerful sandalwood material Polysantol.
Samsara retained enough of Guerlain’s skill with naturals to be rich in beautiful detail even when filling the room, but not everyone could achieve or afford that. The problem with widescreen is that you see a lot in close-up, and the eye (or here, the nose) must be kept busy by filling the view with action. Something had to be done to complicate ordinary perfume structures to fill the available space. Complex natural aromachemicals were too expensive for mass market, and a new kind of synthetic meta-perfume came to life, made of meshed independent compositions. The first such was Angel (Mugler, 1992), a monstrous hybrid made by lashing together a huge cocoa-patchouli oriental, an intense but banal floral[…]”

Excerpt From: Luca Turin. “Perfumes The Guide 2018.” Apple Books.

It seems like post-1970s, fragrances started to become more synthetic, colourful, vivid, complicated, monstrous and loud. With this added context, I can now even better appreciate the direction that Hedi is taking the Celine Haute Parfumerie line.

“Fifties fragrances were neither particularly powerful nor particularly linear, and stayed close to the body. I remember well the feeling as a child of smelling perfume only when being kissed by my mother or one of her friends. As for my father, he wore lavender, which barely lasted through reading the paper he’d bought with the baguette for breakfast. Being able to smell someone’s fragrance was a sign of intimacy. When a perfume left a trail (called sillage, like a boat’s wake) it was remarked upon, usually unfavorably.”

Excerpt From: Luca Turin. “Perfumes The Guide 2018.” Apple Books.

The whole diaphanous veil really is a call back to that retro style. The idea that fragrances should be an intimate experience really resonates with me.

“In the 1920s Coco Chanel had been the first to establish that being tanned was a sign of luxury, not of working in the fields. Yet after the war, in France, the masses were going to the beach (the first paid holidays were instituted by Léon Blum in 1936) and being kabuki-white was back in fashion. Americans did not get this memo. They were healthy, not undernourished, and Hollywood was in a place where avoiding the sun is a full-time job. The great US perfumes of the fifties were Kodachrome holiday snaps, and your American aunt was larger, more square-shouldered, and tanned.

The perfumery materials that defined American perfumery were also in good part phenols: clove, benzoin, oakmoss. Ernest Shiftan (1903–1976), Josephine Catapano (1918–2012) and Bernard Chant (1927–1987), working for the US firm IFF (created by merger in 1958), established a style of perfumery best illustrated by Catapano’s Youth Dew, still stunning in its novelty today. Bernard Chant, IFF’s chief perfumer, took things even further with Cabochard and its fraternal twin Aramis, both of which use a complex phenolic hum of resinoids as a background, a sort of drydown barbecue sauce counterpart to France’s sandalwood roux.”

Excerpt From: Luca Turin. “Perfumes The Guide 2018.” Apple Books.

I have no clue about the American style of perfumery back then either, but it seems like it was distinctly different compared to the French style. Americans were tanned, broad shouldered, healthy while the French idolized being pale and vulnerable perhaps. It makes perfect sense for this video then:

 

imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
I went to a few Celine stores earlier and indeed it seems like there will be new launches coming quite soon. The SAs from different stores gave me different information, so it seems like anywhere from 1 to 3 fragrances will be launching in 2021, with eventually 3 new fragrances added to the line. I can see how since they held back on Bois Dormant and Rimbaud for 2 years, that they will add another one just to have a trio and hype up the fragrance line again and put it back to the forefront of the people's consciousness.
 

imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
Wearing my 2020 sample of Parade and it is just absolutely gorgeous. The opening glows and feels radiant without losing elegance.

IN PARTICULAR, I WAS THINKING ABOUT GAINSBOURG OR DUTRONC, BOWIE’S THIN WHITE DUKE, OR THEN AGAIN WARHOL

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I can imagine all these people, filtered through Hedi's lens, wearing Parade. It smells polished and put together without feeling heavy or stuffy. Effortless chic. It just puts a smile on my face every time I smell it.
 

imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
The drydown feels exactly the same as my 2019 bottle. For my own personal associations, the drydown reminds me of a very clean spa. Relaxing, comforting, luxurious.
 

imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
Wearing Black Tie again and I finally see why some people compare it to Bois d'Argent. There are definitely facets of Bois d'Argent in Black Tie, particularly that orris butter smell. I was able to hone into it better after also noticing it in Electric Wood. To me, I see Black Tie almost as Eau Noire re-built similarly to Bois d'Argent's elegant, airy, and orris buttery structure. The syrupy vanilla + spices + woods connection between the Eau Noire and Black Tie would have been lost to many who have never smelled Eau Noire. Black Tie, similar to Bois d'Argent, really is quite versatile, rather than a strictly night time fragrance. It is quite a sensual and alluring fragrance, so I understand why some have described it as catnip.

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Black Tie smells polished, refined, elegant, composed, suave, mysterious, smooth, sensual, and alluring. I can imagine myself picking up a bottle when my Bois d'Argent runs out. That said, there is something about Bois d'Argent that makes it more suited to a white t-shirt look, and Black Tie feels more suited to an all black look.

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Bois d'Argent would pair even better than Black Tie with something like this:

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Diamondflame

Frag Bomber 1st Squadron
Basenotes Plus
Jun 28, 2009
Just posting in to thank imm0rtelle for taking the time and effort to explore the Celine Haute Parfumerie line of fragrances in ways seldom seen around here. Evidently a labor of love.

I LOVE the look of these bottles btw and happen to enjoy the few I had the chance to try. Imagine my delight to discover a new Celine boutique opening not far from where I work. Alas, deciding on which particular fragrance to get first won’t be an easy task as they all seem very well made or at least possess a certain aesthetic that appeals to my sensibilities.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
Just posting in to thank imm0rtelle for taking the time and effort to explore the Celine Haute Parfumerie line of fragrances in ways seldom seen around here. Evidently a labor of love.

I LOVE the look of these bottles btw and happen to enjoy the few I had the chance to try. Imagine my delight to discover a new Celine boutique opening not far from where I work. Alas, deciding on which particular fragrance to get first won’t be an easy task as they all seem very well made or at least possess a certain aesthetic that appeals to my sensibilities.

Looking forward to hear your thoughts on them! I love reading about what others think about the line, good and bad, as it helps me further understand these fragrances.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
Testing Black Tie again and the powdery/dusty facets are really shining through to me today. The powdery feeling doesn't feel feminine or make me recall of baby powder. Instead it provides texture mainly. It is also a molecule type fragrance similar to Room 1015's Ten Fifteen. They both similarly open with sweetness. The sweetness in Black TIe is a lot less cloying and way more enjoyable and refined. There is quite a bit of versatility to this fragrance.

Despite the name, I can imagine someone edgier like him also wouldn't feel too out of place with Black Tie as there signature scent, dressed up or down:

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imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
Update on price increase:

This post reminds me of a message from a friend who owns a boutique and told me that at the end of August Celine fragrances were going to go up in price - at least in the country where I live - and will cost a 15% more from September, which is a real OUTRAGEOUS.

That should also be noted, that the price hikes we are talking about are at best 25-30 USD "in one go", which is a lot, it is not a gradual thing.

I believe that the issue of inflation is obviously an issue inherent to the price, but I also consider that it is something tangential; I mean, cannot be the main reason for these exaggerated price increases.

This is the second price increase in one year. They launched late 2019. First round of price increases early 2021. Second round September 2021.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
Revisiting Dans Paris on test strip today. It is cozy, but has a bit of a backbone in it. It has this nice androgynous character that gives off a gentle confidence, and easy-going youthful elegance. There's also something about it that smells very sensual, and would love smelling it on a girl. It smells sexy without feeling like it is trying too hard to be sexy. The effortless feeling almost makes it feel sexier.

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imm0rtelle

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Apr 2, 2021
I was pretty sure that I would love Black Tie, but all the times I've tested it, it didn't really spark joy for me. It's "molecule style" didn't really captivate my heart. After watching Sebastian's video on Baccarat Rouge 540/B,] and how he didn't really enjoy it initially, it motivated me to really try to see if wearing Black Tie more will make me love it. One thing that is pretty consistent is that it seems to sing when on my skin. On test strip it is a lot more muted. I hardly detect any of the sweetness. Testing Black Tie on skin and the dark sweetness facet really is quite addicting. It smells like a dark caramelized syrup, but at the same time it is airy and not heavy. I feel like the woods add some structure to the scent so that it is more than just sweetness. The subtle spices and the woods add some texture. There is also a subtle roasted coffee note to add some darkness and dimension. This really matches someone who is elegant, composed, soft spoken, but with a subtle somber feeling.

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I wonder if I would feel differently if I don't already have Eau Noire. Probably not. I'm just not easily wow'd by the modern molecule style fragrance. Eau Noire tanked commercially, while Black Tie is able to capture the hearts of the modern luxury consumer demographic. Black Tie's versatility just beats Eau Noire hands down. As much as I love Eau Noire, I find that I hardly wear it since it is polarizing.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
New candle collection, and possible hint to the upcoming fragrances:

SECOND CHAPTER. THE CELINE HAUTE PARFUMERIE IS BEING ENRICHED WITH A CANDLE COLLECTION.

EXCLUSIVELY AVAILABLE FROM MONDAY SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2021 AT CELINE HAUTE PARFUMERIE POP-UP STORE AT LE BON MARCHE & HAUTE PARFUMERIE STORE 390, RUE SAINT-HONORÉ IN PARIS. AVAILABLE IN SELECTED STORES FROM NOVEMBER 2021.

From the original line, only Nightclubbing made it to being a candle fragrance. The fact it will be available in select stores in November 2021 suggests new fragrances also launching then. I'm curious if these new fragrances are specifically for the candles, or if they will also be launched as perfume.

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L'inventaire - translates to inventory

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However, I think it is more related to art curation.

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The curator of general inventory specialty heritage evolves in a team of librarians, illustrators and photographers. But it is his responsibility to organize inventory campaigns to identify the artistic, historical, archaeological, ethnographic and industrial heritage of each region on behalf of the DRAC, the regional directorate of cultural affairs. If it is necessary, it carries out research upstream. Once the missions are completed, he must write the analytical records. A mapping of the sites for which it is responsible is then drawn up with the help of researchers, elected representatives of local authorities and architects. The curator monitors the protection, restoration and enhancement of monuments, objects and furniture listed in the heritage.

Palimpseste - Palimpsest

In textual studies, a palimpsest (/ˈpælɪmpsɛst/) is a manuscript page, either from a scroll or a book, from which the text has been scraped or washed off so that the page can be reused for another document.[1] Parchment was made of lamb, calf, or goat kid skin and was expensive and not readily available, so in the interest of economy a page was often re-used by scraping off the previous writing. In colloquial usage, the term palimpsest is also used in architecture, archaeology and geomorphology to denote an object made or worked upon for one purpose and later reused for another, for example a monumental brass the reverse blank side of which has been re-engraved.

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Papiers Froissés - Crumpled Paper

Hedi seems to have a strong focus on the candle series. Very literary. Appealing to the crowd that likes the smell of old books, libraries, etc.

Tambour Noir - Black Drum

Probably related to Garde Republicaine drums. Hedi has featured them in ss19 and men's fw21's fashion show.

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Grands Lys - Grande Lilies

Probably a nod to the Fleurs-de-Lys, knights, French royalty.

The fleur-de-lis has been used in the heraldry of numerous European nations, but is particularly associated with France, notably during its monarchical period. The fleur-de-lis became "at one and the same time, religious, political, dynastic, artistic, emblematic, and symbolic," especially in French heraldry.[4] The fleur-de-lis has been used by French royalty and throughout history to represent Catholic saints of France. In particular, the Virgin Mary and Saint Joseph are often depicted with a lily.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
One thing that does strike me as unexpected is that Saint-Germain-des-Prés wasn't featured on the candle video promo. Hedi had Saint-Germain-des-Prés scented sheets given out to scent people's wardrobes during the launch of the fragrance line back in 2019. The fact that Nightclubbing was specifically shown suggests that it is going to be the only original fragrance to appear in candle form. I feel like almost every fragrance in the line would do well in candle form. But I 100% understand why Nightclubbing was chosen. It does have that ambient feeling to it. So I'm guessing the fragrances in candle form are designed to really pair well with scenting the environment that you're in.

I haven't really looked into interior decorating, but I can see scented candles being a nice addition to one's home or office. I have had zero interest in scented candles, but I will sample them and see how I feel.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
Now that Celine is pricing themselves pretty much on par with Louis Vuitton, I can guess that the candle prices would be similar. Maybe 170 USD for 55 hours.

Been watching some videos on candles and it is quite interesting. I can imagine myself being attracted to candles with fragrances that I want to smell in my environment but not necessarily wear on my skin.


The Louis Vuitton candle wax is made of mineral wax which also means it is paraffin wax and petroleum based. This is supposedly less healthy as burning it gives off benzenes and other carcinogenic chemicals. I wonder if the Celine candle wax will also be mineral wax.

 

cheapimitation

Well-known member
May 15, 2015
From my friend at the boutique, they will be $90.

I'm not too excited about these as designers tend not to do candles as well as candle companies. But we shall see, I'll at least go give them a sniff. I hope they at least use the best wax for candles unlike LV.

I like that they'e keeping the scents mostly different from the fragrances, I don't like when candles are too perfume-y and sometimes it can ruin a fragrance for me if I start too associate it too much with the candle/room scent. Le Labo Santal 33 for example will always smell like the Arlo hotel lobby and not a fragrance one should wear.

Speaking of Le Labo, I actually think their candles are the best thing they offer!

Now that Celine is pricing themselves pretty much on par with Louis Vuitton, I can guess that the candle prices would be similar. Maybe 170 USD for 55 hours.

Been watching some videos on candles and it is quite interesting. I can imagine myself being attracted to candles with fragrances that I want to smell in my environment but not necessarily wear on my skin.

The Louis Vuitton candle wax is made of mineral wax which also means it is paraffin wax and petroleum based. This is supposedly less healthy as burning it gives off benzenes and other carcinogenic chemicals. I wonder if the Celine candle wax will also be mineral wax.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
From my friend at the boutique, they will be $90.

I'm not too excited about these as designers tend not to do candles as well as candle companies. But we shall see, I'll at least go give them a sniff. I hope they at least use the best wax for candles unlike LV.

I like that they'e keeping the scents mostly different from the fragrances, I don't like when candles are too perfume-y and sometimes it can ruin a fragrance for me if I start too associate it too much with the candle/room scent. Le Labo Santal 33 for example will always smell like the Arlo hotel lobby and not a fragrance one should wear.

Speaking of Le Labo, I actually think their candles are the best thing they offer!

Thanks for the price update!

This is a paradigm shift for me to even consider home fragrances and I feel like it opens a whole new world for me to consider scents that I don't want to wear on myself but may be open to smelling as an ambient scent. I want to revisit Le Labo now.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
First customer who bought the candles at Le Bon Marché:

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Using google translate:

After receiving the notification, I immediately went to the Celine pop-up store in Le Bon Marché. The new scented candles are so beautiful! Pure black glass, black wax and candle wicks, a total of six fragrances, five of which are new and original, and only Nightclubbing is in the existing Haute Parfumerie collection.

L'Inventaire: Old book + woody fragrance, similar to Diptyque's green Paris candle, but warmer.

Palimpseste: Peony, rose, pear, super beautiful and romantic fragrance!

Grands lys: The ecstasy of herbal fragrance lovers, the fragrance of wild lilies.

Nightclubbing: vanilla and cigar, full of charming neutral fragrance, like a beautiful Paris nightlife.

Papiers Froissés and Tambour Noir, please go and smell them yourself. The SA was very enthusiastic and told me that I was the first customer to buy Celine candles. There are also embossed cup lids, candle wick scissors, leather candle cup covers and so on. The limited-time store is in Le Bon Marché, from September 20th to October 10th, it will not be released until November in China. After that, I will do an out-of-the-box test for everyone!
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
Hedi selling so many accessories just for a candle.

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If I do get a candle, I know I will need to also buy a cover. Maybe if I'm impulsive I'll get the branded wick cutter that I can double as a wick dipper, instead of getting the candle snuffer, since candle snuffers still leave a small smoke trail after extinguishing the flame. I'm 100% passing on the leather candle holder and the Triomphe canvas travel case.

Hedi really out here trying to milk as much money as possible for Celine. He's doing such a great job so far, even the pandemic couldn't stop him. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, Celine has less of a presence in the English-speaking fragrance community. It definitely feels quite exclusive because the price:hype ratio prices out most enthusiasts.

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imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
I wore Black Tie out today and it was just shining. I could smell it even though I was wearing a mask. Because it is the molecule style, I get a better experience when not intentionally smelling it off my skin. I can describe it broadly as an airy syrupy sweet scent with a subtle "green" feeling and subtle darkness. I can't tell if I sense the "green" because I know it is the younger sibling of Eau Noire, or whether there is some herbal facet to Black Tie. I consider it a gourmand-lite fragrance. There is this addictive feeling I had when I caught wafts of it. Every time I had a little bit, I wanted more. Because I consider it mainly a sweet fragrance, I would arbitrarily categorize it as a sexy fragrance. It is a low key "I'm sexy and I know it" type of fragrance. I'm still on the fence on whether to add a bottle to my wardrobe. So far I have moved from ambivalent to a like. Hopefully the more I wear my sample, the more I would love it.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
Apparently there will be two more candles launching in 2022 called Illuminations and Silence Blanc. Candles are 240 g and burn time around 50-60 hours.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
I've consumed three of them, one after another. By the way, your contribution to this thread is epic, thank you.

Glad my stream-of-consciousness is of use to more than just myself!

I've worn Black Tie for at least 6 times already and the most recent time was when I had the most enjoyable experience. I'm usually quite anosmic to it, so it was surprising to me when I could smell it more often than my previous tests. I was reflecting on what factors could have affected this, and I think it is because I changed my spray routine to spraying behind my ear. I used to only spray on my clavicles, because of the Roja Dove video that talks about his spray routine:


Spraying my clavicles has been quite nice for me, but I think it just doesn't work as well for "molecular" fragrances like Black Tie. I'm going to continue experimenting with behind the ear approach to see if this will help me finally be able to smell and enjoy Black Tie.
 

imm0rtelle

Well-known member
Apr 2, 2021
Update on fakes:

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There used to only be 5 (Parade, Saint-Germain-des-Prés, Eau de Californie, Black Tie, and Nightclubbing). Now 2 more are joining the list (Cologne Française and La Peau Nue). They're still missing Dans Paris and Reptile. Fakes still are 100 mL bottles.
 

GoldWineMemories

Well-known member
Nov 22, 2019
If you didn't know what to look for those are good fakes, especially that Saint-Germain-des-Pres bottle. Not to the level of Kurkdjian fakes yet, but wow. Sad.
 

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