My first try .Need help

[Neua]

I tried a formula that I found online and tweaked it .It smells nice for me but it doesn't have much projection and isn't long lasting.Should I keep the perfume for a week and then evaluate?.Any suggestions to change this formula ?

(drops)
EO

Cardamon 4
Neroli. 7
Jasmine 2
Orange sweet 1
Lemon. 2
Bergamot. 4
Grapefruit. 2
Rosewood. 4
Chamomile 1
Patchouli. 1
Sage. 1
Cedar. 1
Juniper berry 1

AC

Hedione 16
Galaxolide 16
Timbersilk. 3
Iso e super. 9
Geranol. 1

 

[ourmess]

Your materials are relatively mild and there's nothing with "punch", so your fragrance is relatively mild and doesn't have much "punch". Your formula is almost half hedione + galaxolide, so it's going to smell almost entirely like a smothering blanket of hedione and galaxolide.

You need to go back and reformulate it, and use some higher-impact materials. Try looking up hedione on TGSC, and reading through the demo formulae for a while - see what kinds of ideas you can get from that.

 

[mnitabach]

Agreed with the above. A useful experiment is to assemble the identical formula, but leave out all of the aromachemicals. This will tell you if in the absence of enormous blanket of galax, hedione, ies your naturals are themselves in good accord, or are mud. I fear the latter is more likely, but you need to do the experiment to find out.

 

[Neua]

Your materials are relatively mild and there's nothing with "punch", so your fragrance is relatively mild and doesn't have much "punch". Your formula is almost half hedione + galaxolide, so it's going to smell almost entirely like a smothering blanket of hedione and galaxolide.

You need to go back and reformulate it, and use some higher-impact materials. Try looking up hedione on TGSC, and reading through the demo formulae for a while - see what kinds of ideas you can get from that.

Is c12 mna high impact ?

 

[ScentAle]

Is c12 mna high impact ?

Ooh sure, c12 mna is one of the kings.

 

[Citroasis]

What is the formula you "found", and what are the materials you "tweaked"?

By looking at your original post, it makes me believe you found the formula as all EO's (an all natural formula), and now are looking to add a couple aroma chemicals to make it have more punch, projection, longevity, etc.....yes?

 

[mnitabach]

Ooh sure, c12 mna is one of the kings.

Before putting C-12 MNA on top of that formula, it is important to determine whether the core structure of all of those naturals is harmonious, or rather is mud. If it's the latter, then adding aliphatic aldehydes isn't going to help.

 

[ScentAle]

Before putting C-12 MNA on top of that formula, it is important to determine whether the core structure of all of those naturals is harmonious, or rather is mud. If it's the latter, then adding aliphatic aldehydes isn't going to help.

Yes yes right. In some blends, using that will only ruin all, like maybe is his blend type.

I'm in love with c12 mna because it is the real key in some case, like in the "churchy" dry perfume. Avignon could be called c12Avignon eheh.

In my full churchy too, all is dosed around that, giving pretty unique and strong effect.

 

[Casper_grassy]

Are all the materials pre-diluted?

 

[İyonis]

hello . Coumarin (crystalline powder) IFRA what is the standard?

 

[ourmess]

hello . Coumarin (crystalline powder) IFRA what is the standard?

Go to the IFRA Standards Library and you can find it there: https://ifrafragrance.org/pdf/web/viewer.html?file=/standards/IFRA_STD_023.pdf

 

[İyonis]

Go to the IFRA Standards Library and you can find it there: https://ifrafragrance.org/pdf/web/viewer.html?file=/standards/IFRA_STD_023.pdf

sorry my english is very bad comment from there

 

[jameshillier]

You might need more fixatives (some different musks and small amount of ambrox for a start). Also don't be afraid to do some experiments with dilution. Diluting always means less longevity, but sometimes diluting can give you some extra diffusion and even a more pleasant scent profile, while only minimally impacting longevity. Sometimes the difference between 20% and 17% or %15 to 12% (or even 20% down to 12%!) can be advantageous in some unexpected ways.

 

[mnitabach]

You might need more fixatives (some different musks and small amount of ambrox for a start). Also don't be afraid to do some experiments with dilution. Diluting always means less longevity, but sometimes diluting can give you some extra diffusion and even a more pleasant scent profile, while only minimally impacting longevity. Sometimes the difference between 20% and 17% or %15 to 12% (or even 20% down to 12%!) can be advantageous in some unexpected ways.

Agreed on dilution as an important variable.

 

[Shukran]

I tried a formula that I found online and tweaked it .It smells nice for me but it doesn't have much projection and isn't long lasting.Should I keep the perfume for a week and then evaluate?.Any suggestions to change this formula ?

(drops)
EO

Cardamon 4
Neroli. 7
Jasmine 2
Orange sweet 1
Lemon. 2
Bergamot. 4
Grapefruit. 2
Rosewood. 4
Chamomile 1
Patchouli. 1
Sage. 1
Cedar. 1
Juniper berry 1

AC

Hedione 16
Galaxolide 16
Timbersilk. 3
Iso e super. 9
Geranol. 1

Looking at your formula, I think the biggest issue is the fact that most ingredients you are using are relatively low impact odour and would dissipitiate quite fast. There are also too many top notes and too few mid or base note which aids increasing its longevity.

Also I noticed the enormous amount of hedoine and galaxolide in the formula. The amount u listed is almost 1/2 of the essential oil which I think is quite a lot but I could be wrong.

Try lowering your doses of hedione and galaxolide and increase more mid and base notes in your formula. You could also try with few pre-made bases and follow few tgse demo formulas.


Thanks