Methyl anthranilate dilution

Cami_west coast

Basenotes Member
Nov 25, 2020
In general, do you think 15% is high to use for a Methyl Anthranilate concentration? I'm using the 50% diluted in BB from Perfumer's Apprentice. I see that a little goes a long way and I know it's a very general question... but does anyone know if there a good range typically for this product?
 

RomanB

Basenotes Junkie
Oct 22, 2022
Use as much moles of methyl anthranilate as moles of aldehydes in your blend. You can have a lot of cyclamen aldehyde or amyl cinnamic aldehyde, for example.

Methyl anthranilate will react with aldehydes to form Schiff’s bases. But on its own it isn’t that interesting.
 

RomanB

Basenotes Junkie
Oct 22, 2022
Methyl Anthranilate is one of the key ingredients of Tuberose, Gardenia and Orange Flower. I think that makes it quite interesting.
They were used because of high methyl anthranilate content. Orangeflower absolute is and was ridiculously expensive, but in real perfumes with aldehydes, after application on skin it looses “personality”.
 

David Ruskin

Basenotes Institution
May 28, 2009
Methyl anthranilate is used because of its smell. A prior knowledge of the chemistry with aldehydes may affect how it is used; or it may not. I have a couple of fragrances which have badly discoloured over the years due to Schiff's Base formation. Hasn't made the fragrance less interesting, nor has it lost its personality. Depends on how much is used, and what else is there. These are bought fragrances by the way, not made by me.

Tuberose, Orange Flower and Gardenia type of fragrances are liked because they smell wonderful. One of the reasons they smell good is because of the methyl anthranilate present. I think it is a little naive to describe a perfumery ingredient as not interesting when there is an obvious use for it.
 
Jan 9, 2021
In addition to being an important part of many floral accords as mentioned, methyl anthranilate is commonly used for grape flavoring.

Not sure how common it is used for that application in fragrances, but I have been trying to get a grape note in some blends by using it a relatively high percentage, like 1% or so.
 

pkiler

Basenotes Plus
Basenotes Plus
Dec 5, 2007
Methyl Anthranilate is very important, and very useful as David mentions above.
The Scotch broom flower currently going bananas with flowers in my front yard presently has a strong Methyl anthranilate component. See pic below. Paul and Broom 2023.jpg
In my last home, the Plum blossoms also had a strong Methyl Anthranilate component.
 

ScentAle

Basenotes Junkie
Oct 26, 2021
Off topic: I spoke with a small north Italian artisan that produce some oils, one is chrisanthemum absolute. High cost. Anyway, I never thought and never see this plant extraction, very curious like always!
 

jfrater

Basenotes Plus
Basenotes Plus
Jun 2, 2005

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