Lilac Accord

[jfrater]

Hi all - after getting lots of help from this thread: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/408289-Lilac-Help! I have put together a fairly nice lilac accord. Please feel free to comment and critique if you think it can be improved. It is a nice cinnamon soapy honey accord. Thanks to everyone that helped on the other thread. This is still a work in progress but it's pretty nice as it is.

60 Phenyl Ethyl Alcohol
40 Hydroxitycitronellal
16 Cinnamic Alcohol
10 Alpha Terpineol
10 Heliotropin
10 Benzyl Acetate
8 Petitgrain (bigaradier heart from Robertet)
8 Anise aldehyde
6 linalool
4 Ylang Ylang
4 Cinnamic aldehyde
4 Phenyl Acetaldehyde
2 Rose absolute (rose petals by Robertet if you want colorless)
2 PADMA
2 Iso Eugenol
2 Benzaldehyde
1 Jonquil Absolute
1 Jasmine abs
1 Miel Oliffac (honey notes)
1 Lilial
0.5 Indole
2 Methyl Laitone (10%)
1 Aldehyde C-12 MNA (10%)

Using natural extractions where possible I managed to get it to 89% natural so it is a lovely soft accord but still packs a punch.

You can omit the jonquil, and other essential oils (rose and jasmine) if you want to save money - they are there for naturalness and support.

 

[Nizan]

How do you come up with these so fast?
Do you make large batches of variations?

 

[jfrater]

How do you come up with these so fast?
Do you make large batches of variations?

I do make large batches - if something isn't right I throw it out and start again using notes from the previous batch. I also do this full time - from waking till bedtime so I put many more hours in than most.

Lots of these are the results of weeks - I just happened to finish a couple off this week. Well - finished until I make more changes

 

[mnaonbn]

Mod, please delete.

 

[jfrater]

I have not tried it yet, but this looks lovely. Thank you for sharing.

No prob Note that I made an error (which I have corrected now) in that I listed aldehyde c-12 as 100% - but it is actually meant to be at 10% dilution.

 

[Pharmacist_Blender]

Hi all - after getting lots of help from this thread: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/408289-Lilac-Help! I have put together a fairly nice lilac accord. Please feel free to comment and critique if you think it can be improved. It is a nice cinnamon soapy honey accord. Thanks to everyone that helped on the other thread. This is still a work in progress but it's pretty nice as it is.

60 Phenyl Ethyl Alcohol
40 Hydroxitycitronellal
16 Cinnamic Alcohol
10 Alpha Terpineol
10 Heliotropin
10 Benzyl Acetate
8 Petitgrain (bigaradier heart from Robertet)
8 Anise aldehyde
6 linalool
4 Ylang Ylang
4 Cinnamic aldehyde
4 Phenyl Acetaldehyde
2 Rose absolute (rose petals by Robertet if you want colorless)
2 PADMA
2 Iso Eugenol
2 Benzaldehyde
1 Jonquil Absolute
1 Jasmine abs
1 Miel Oliffac (honey notes)
1 Lilial
0.5 Indole
2 Methyl Laitone (10%)
1 Aldehyde C-12 MNA (10%)

Using natural extractions where possible I managed to get it to 89% natural so it is a lovely soft accord but still packs a punch.

You can omit the jonquil, and other essential oils (rose and jasmine) if you want to save money - they are there for naturalness and support.

I made this up and have to say it's really fantastic!! Really natural smelling!

 

[Chris Smith]

Hi, I like to include some actual lilac in the mix. I made a tincture last season, which has a great fragrance to it. It's fairly dark in color, though.

 

[jfrater]

Chris wow I would love to get a whiff of that!

 

[jfrater]

I made this up and have to say it's really fantastic!! Really natural smelling!

Awesome! I am glad to hear someone likes the end result It is definitely a nice subtle lilac. I am thinking of working on a slight reformulation to open it up a little. For example I think the miel oliffac is not really needed given the inclusion of phenyl acetaldehyde which has nice honey notes anyway.

 

[Chris Smith]

I know, I wish you could smell the tincture. I put a little on my hand today, and the scent is really nice on the skin! But, the only reason I suggested adding something like this to the mix is that, ultimately, it would be a good marketing point to be able to say that real lilac is in the product. I think it's awesome that as it stands, your lilac accord is 89% natural

 

[Tomolo]

My apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I found your lilac accord immensely useful, Jfrater. I didn't have all the materials, so I improvised a bit, but it still turned out lovely. I expanded on it a little, to give it a bit of lift and more presence in the top...I also added an airborne pollen dimension to it. The ethereal and perfumed polleny/musky note that permeates from lilac trees has always my favorite aspect of the scent. Thanks again for offering your formula. It has been a lifesaver! I will definitely be using it as my home base for lilac accords in the future.

Cheers.

 

[Thanawat]

I will follow this formula but i have questions
This formula amount in grams , ratio or percent?

Thank you.

 

[Jamie-]

I will follow this formula but i have questions
This formula amount in grams , ratio or percent?

It's 'parts'. So could be grams or kilos, the end result is the same. If you are a DIY'er just having fun at home and consistency isn't of great importance to you, you can use 'drops'. But beware using drops is a little (very actually) inconsistent and your end result will vary each time.

 

[pkiler]

I will follow this formula but i have questions
This formula amount in grams , ratio or percent?

Thank you.

By weight. Choose the unit that you wish to make it in, by weight.

 

[Sicomoro]

I’ve been aware of your work for some time and once put together a free formula you posted so I have a lot of faith in your nose... but I just wanted to say that PEA seems huuugggee! Which admittedly excites me. I think I may be a little more sensitive to PEA than most. You said it was 98% natural— is natural PEA a bit milder than the AC?

 

[Marlaney]

I’ve been aware of your work for some time and once put together a free formula you posted so I have a lot of faith in your nose... but I just wanted to say that PEA seems huuugggee! Which admittedly excites me. I think I may be a little more sensitive to PEA than most. You said it was 98% natural— is natural PEA a bit milder than the AC?

It’s about the same amount of PEA found in rise otto, so definitely not unusual, but I completely agree about PEA. It has this odd metallic note that can be harsh. I find the natural version to be much better. You can also add a little bit of Rose Crystals (about 5% of the amount of PEA) to help soften those harsh top notes. You can do as much as 10%, but it can start to smell a bit like those nauseatingly sweet rose candles if you use too much.
And the real trick with PEA is maceration. You just need to let the scents blend together for a while to help soften everything.