Geranyl Formate substitutions in Neroli Accord

Rook

Super Member
Aug 3, 2020
Hi everyone.
I'm trying to find a more cost-effective way of getting a realistic neroli accord, but I do not have one of the materials, Geranyl Formate. Are there any good substitutions?

Also, what is the most realistic neroli accord formula you know of?
 

Casper_grassy

Basenotes Dependent
May 5, 2020
Hi everyone.
I'm trying to find a more cost-effective way of getting a realistic neroli accord, but I do not have one of the materials, Geranyl Formate. Are there any good substitutions?

Also, what is the most realistic neroli accord formula you know of?
I don’t think geranyl formate is a necessity.

Neroli is pretty simple, archive a bit on the forums, do some google searches and look at gc analyses, you will find your answer.
 

Rook

Super Member
Aug 3, 2020
I just googled it, PerfumersWorld has it, unless you’re scared haha
What a strange thing to say. I simply do not have the material, I don't know why you'd bring fear into it. Thats why I was asking for a good substitution. Ive never even smelled the material.

I don’t think geranyl formate is a necessity.

Neroli is pretty simple, archive a bit on the forums, do some google searches and look at gc analyses, you will find your answer.
I've found a few neroli accord formulas and Im working with a few. Again, I was simply asking for the most realistic that folks have found.
 

parker25mv

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 12, 2016
I don't think gernanyl formate is too absolutely important in a neroli accord.

You could of course try gernanyl acetate, which will smell similar but a little inferior. But if you do you should probably use half as much (just my instinct). Neryl acetate will be more important in a neroli accord.

You might also see if your perfume supply source has any other "formate". You can do a search on their website. Possibly you could add a little of that in too.

If a formula calls for, say for example, geranyl formate and citronellyl acetate, using geranyl acetate and citronellyl formate will not really smell too different.
 

Casper_grassy

Basenotes Dependent
May 5, 2020
What a strange thing to say. I simply do not have the material, I don't know why you'd bring fear into it. Thats why I was asking for a good substitution. Ive never even smelled the material.


I've found a few neroli accord formulas and Im working with a few. Again, I was simply asking for the most realistic that folks have found.
It was a joke because it seems a few people on here are skeptical of ordering material from perfumersworld, I think you misinterpreted what I said, it’s ok though.

The closest thing you might currently own that would be closest is geranyl acetate, but it will be less “fruity”.
 

mnitabach

Basenotes Dependent
Nov 13, 2020
It was a joke because it seems a few people on here are skeptical of ordering material from perfumersworld, I think you misinterpreted what I said, it’s ok though.

The closest thing you might currently own that would be closest is geranyl acetate, but it will be less “fruity”.
Or geranyl propionate is also fruitier.
 

Casper_grassy

Basenotes Dependent
May 5, 2020
Or geranyl propionate is also fruitier.
Do you have a supplier for geranyl propionate? I don’t know what it smells like but I’ll assume it’s much more fruity than its formate counterpart. The few propionates I’ve come across are more akin to butyrates but I can’t describe their differences in their fruitiness. IMO propionates can lean more towards boozy whereas butryates might be better for fruit accords.
 

mnitabach

Basenotes Dependent
Nov 13, 2020
Do you have a supplier for geranyl propionate? I don’t know what it smells like but I’ll assume it’s much more fruity than its formate counterpart. The few propionates I’ve come across are more akin to butyrates but I can’t describe their differences in their fruitiness. IMO propionates can lean more towards boozy whereas butryates might be better for fruit accords.
I got natural geranyl propionate isolate from Hermitage.
 

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