First perfume attempts. Advice?

Idaa

New member
Mar 31, 2023
Hello, this is my first post. I'm excited to join this community!

I'm relatively new to perfume in general so please excuse my complete naivety. I've gotten increasingly engrossed in the world of perfume in the past year. It's endlessly fascinating to me. Lately I've taken a turn from simply stockpiling various niche fragrance samples towards researching the processes and materials involved in making perfume. I've been obsessively researching various raw materials and watching a lot of youtube videos etc. I know enough to know that making original perfumes that aren't garbage requires a lot of skill and practice and knowledge. Still, the creative itch has been growing and I'm starting to give in.

I impulse bought handful of random naturals and aroma chemicals recently with the intention of familiarizing myself with raw materials and possibly mixing some single note perfumes. Since then I keep thinking of ideas for perfumes I would like to make/ notes to combine etc. Would it be completely foolish of me to try my hand at some simple blends? I'm thinking that I can start with pre-mixed bases/accords as well as some naturals and other materials that interest me right now in order to start experimenting around. (I can't afford to spend hundred of dollars on a starter kit) In the meantime I might try t mixing some basic formulas for just to learn about the process. Hopefully as I get a better sense of things I can add a little more nuance to the experiments eventually mixing my own accords if I get that far.

A quick note on my inspiration: I love tuberose and white florals, I love leather and realistic green notes. Generally I'm interested in fragrances that fall into the "feminine" category but have mature edgier components: smokey, dirty, animalic etc. I'm dreaming about a tuberose/leather fragrance. Maybe with galbanum or tobacco, herbaceous middle notes, woody base??? Idk!

Do you think it's a bad idea to just start messing around with some of this stuff? Does it make sense to start with premade bases and naturals to keep things simple? I also might find existing formulas that are close to what I'm envisioning and tweak them as needed. I would love any general advice! and I'm sorry if this is an annoying thing to post about!
 

Casper_grassy

Basenotes Dependent
May 5, 2020
You can do whatever you want.

I’d suggest familiarizing yourself with the materials a bit before you start blending but give it a shot.

Using bases is similar to using naturals so I can’t tell you not to try them out. But there are many singular molecules that might be easier to begin blending with.
 

flagellum

Super Member
Jun 4, 2013
Hello, this is my first post. I'm excited to join this community!

I'm relatively new to perfume in general so please excuse my complete naivety. I've gotten increasingly engrossed in the world of perfume in the past year. It's endlessly fascinating to me. Lately I've taken a turn from simply stockpiling various niche fragrance samples towards researching the processes and materials involved in making perfume. I've been obsessively researching various raw materials and watching a lot of youtube videos etc. I know enough to know that making original perfumes that aren't garbage requires a lot of skill and practice and knowledge. Still, the creative itch has been growing and I'm starting to give in.

I impulse bought handful of random naturals and aroma chemicals recently with the intention of familiarizing myself with raw materials and possibly mixing some single note perfumes. Since then I keep thinking of ideas for perfumes I would like to make/ notes to combine etc. Would it be completely foolish of me to try my hand at some simple blends? I'm thinking that I can start with pre-mixed bases/accords as well as some naturals and other materials that interest me right now in order to start experimenting around. (I can't afford to spend hundred of dollars on a starter kit) In the meantime I might try t mixing some basic formulas for just to learn about the process. Hopefully as I get a better sense of things I can add a little more nuance to the experiments eventually mixing my own accords if I get that far.

A quick note on my inspiration: I love tuberose and white florals, I love leather and realistic green notes. Generally I'm interested in fragrances that fall into the "feminine" category but have mature edgier components: smokey, dirty, animalic etc. I'm dreaming about a tuberose/leather fragrance. Maybe with galbanum or tobacco, herbaceous middle notes, woody base??? Idk!

Do you think it's a bad idea to just start messing around with some of this stuff? Does it make sense to start with premade bases and naturals to keep things simple? I also might find existing formulas that are close to what I'm envisioning and tweak them as needed. I would love any general advice! and I'm sorry if this is an annoying thing to post about!
Some random thoughts on this and welcome to DIY!

- if relatively new to this, among the first things to do is get some good perfumer´s alcohol and predilute your materials to let´s say 10%, the ultra powerful ones to 1%, most will say

- when I started, I used them pure and undiluted, cost me a fortune! Don´t do that, be smart and dilute

- do not use glycerine or anything fatty, just alcohol and essences, which means your bases and essential oils, aromachemicals etc.

- no, it is not premature to start exploring and mixing simple things for example just to see how they work and interact with each other

- bases are fine, you get a finer result, when using bases but you do not know what is in them, they are no "easy solution" as some may think. What is in them will have its own singular reaction to other things you combine them with, take notes, when using them

- Yes, I think it is a good idea to start with premade bases, as I said: they get you more directly to where you want to go. You can never start early enough, if you want to start perfuming, do not be afraid, just start doing it, by weight and prediluted, as I said, you can also save some money when you predilute and you get to analyse the results better as some oils will never show you what they truly can, unless diluted.

- I cannot give you any more specific advice on individual notes you got, because you just state you got "a handful", I do not know what this handful includes. BUT: if tuberose, galbanum and tobacco happen to be included, you will have to work hard, as all three of them are really hard to tame in a blend, they can easily dominate. Dilution is the key. Search the forum, it can help.

- And above all: have fun and enjoy!
 

Idaa

New member
Mar 31, 2023
Some random thoughts on this and welcome to DIY!

- if relatively new to this, among the first things to do is get some good perfumer´s alcohol and predilute your materials to let´s say 10%, the ultra powerful ones to 1%, most will say

- when I started, I used them pure and undiluted, cost me a fortune! Don´t do that, be smart and dilute

- do not use glycerine or anything fatty, just alcohol and essences, which means your bases and essential oils, aromachemicals etc.

- no, it is not premature to start exploring and mixing simple things for example just to see how they work and interact with each other

- bases are fine, you get a finer result, when using bases but you do not know what is in them, they are no "easy solution" as some may think. What is in them will have its own singular reaction to other things you combine them with, take notes, when using them

- Yes, I think it is a good idea to start with premade bases, as I said: they get you more directly to where you want to go. You can never start early enough, if you want to start perfuming, do not be afraid, just start doing it, by weight and prediluted, as I said, you can also save some money when you predilute and you get to analyse the results better as some oils will never show you what they truly can, unless diluted.

- I cannot give you any more specific advice on individual notes you got, because you just state you got "a handful", I do not know what this handful includes. BUT: if tuberose, galbanum and tobacco happen to be included, you will have to work hard, as all three of them are really hard to tame in a blend, they can easily dominate. Dilution is the key. Search the forum, it can help.

- And above all: have fun and enjoy!
Thank you for the advice/encouragement!
-Firstly, yes I do plan on diluting everything first before doing any blending.

-Alcohol: I was considering starting with everclear since I can walk 5 min from my house and get a bottle. Although I don't want to mix a bunch of dilutions with it and be stuck with them if it's less than ideal! I'll probably take your advice and just buy SDA 40B.

-I plan on buying more soon but what's in the mail rn is: Iso E Super, Cashmeran, Benzoin Sumatra, Musk Ketone, Galbanum, Sandwood EO, Tuberose (Fleuressence) Petitgrain EO and 2-AP (long story). Again I ordered these mostly out of curiosity and in order to get a sense of what these materials smell like on their own.

-I can't afford to go too crazy buying materials at the moment but here's a list of things I'm considering for my next order

Jasmone,
Ambroxan
Hedione
nerol
para-cresyl caprylate
Bergamot
Lemon EO
Eugenol
Ethyl vanillin
isobutyl salicylate
Galaxolide
Methyl Ionone Gamma
Civet (synth)
Tobacco Base
Farnesol
Styrax
Linalool
Patchouli

I also have some cheap Ylang Ylang, Lavender, and Sweet Orange Essential Oils that I might just use for the time being.
 

pkiler

Basenotes Plus
Basenotes Plus
Dec 5, 2007
Make sure that your everclear is 190 and not 150. You can also use Spirytus 192. (sp?) I also have to warn you against buying any cheap ylang products, I did that when beginning, and I regret it.
 

flagellum

Super Member
Jun 4, 2013
Thank you for the advice/encouragement!
-Firstly, yes I do plan on diluting everything first before doing any blending.

-Alcohol: I was considering starting with everclear since I can walk 5 min from my house and get a bottle. Although I don't want to mix a bunch of dilutions with it and be stuck with them if it's less than ideal! I'll probably take your advice and just buy SDA 40B.

-I plan on buying more soon but what's in the mail rn is: Iso E Super, Cashmeran, Benzoin Sumatra, Musk Ketone, Galbanum, Sandwood EO, Tuberose (Fleuressence) Petitgrain EO and 2-AP (long story). Again I ordered these mostly out of curiosity and in order to get a sense of what these materials smell like on their own.

-I can't afford to go too crazy buying materials at the moment but here's a list of things I'm considering for my next order

Jasmone,
Ambroxan
Hedione
nerol
para-cresyl caprylate
Bergamot
Lemon EO
Eugenol
Ethyl vanillin
isobutyl salicylate
Galaxolide
Methyl Ionone Gamma
Civet (synth)
Tobacco Base
Farnesol
Styrax
Linalool
Patchouli

I also have some cheap Ylang Ylang, Lavender, and Sweet Orange Essential Oils that I might just use for the time being.
Nice ideas. Cashmeran works wonders. I wish you lots of fun!
 

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