Dior Batch/Production Code

teemas

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 15, 2011
Hi guys. I've been doing some research on Dior Homme and DHI recently to discover something about the batch/production code found under the bottle or box itself. Read quite a number of threads especially those with the batch numbers and personally, I've been trying to find vintage Dior Homme bottles. So now instead of using checkcosmetic.net when you are at DFS or other shops, here is how you can tell when the Dior fragrance was produced.

An example of a Dior batch code would be 1N02

For the 4 digits/alphabets, first digit represents the year which the fragrance was produced,
1 - 2011
0 - 2010
9 - 2009
8 - 2008
7 - 2007 so on so forth. chances of seeing 1 as 2001 is quite impossible :)

Hence, with the example of 1N02, it would be produced/manufactured in year 2011.

As for the alphabet just behind the first digit (the alphabet that sits in the second place of the batch code (eg 1N02), it simply represents the month the fragrance was produced. Dior starts with N being Jan. Thus,

N - Jan
P - Feb
Q - Mar
R - Apr
S - May
T - June
U - July
V - Aug
W - Sep
X - Oct
Y - Nov
Z - Dec

Once again, with the given example of 1N02, the fragrance would be produced/manufactured in Jan.

And finally for the last two digits, it represents the week of that particular month. In conclusion, the example of 1N02 simply refers to a fragrance that was produced/manufactured on the second week of Jan 2011.


Credits to ace11 for pointing out the last two digits :)

last 2 digits are the week number within a certain month.

0N03 : 2000 , Jan - 3rd week .
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Addition Information:

As pointed out by Ete, 7H02 was produced in Aug 2007. However it was a tester so there could be a difference in tester batch codes. Now again by assumption, 'H' happens to be the eighth alphabet and it was related to Aug. Hence, those with testers please help me out as well. Im going to add the months for testers.

A - Jan
B - Feb
C - Mar
D - Apr
E - May
F - June
G - July
H - Aug
J - Sep
K - Oct
L - Nov
M - Dec

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Conclusion (Reformulation dates for DH & DHI)

This part gets a little tricky as there are different variations and I cant seem to find a date which everyone agrees on. However, I'm going to give you guys the best estimated date. Please be skeptical about it and dont totally count on it :) When I am very sure, I will definitely highlight it for you guys. As for now, here are the dates.

Dior Homme

0W02 was the last batch of vintage (use the batch codes provided above to calculate backwards for all vintage juices) - from my understanding, the bottles had silver collars and silver stems. Then again, some mentioned that there are black stems with vintage juices. So please trust the dates instead of appearance :)

Week number is important :)

For example, for DH :

Silver ring -silver tube - ( the original formulation of DH ) - produced until -2nd week of Sep-2010 code 0W02

Whereas 0W03 is Silver - Black (Ver1 formulation)

0W03 onwards was the first reformulation (many agree that this version is the transitional scent from the vintage to the current reformulation (version II - black collar with black stem). Personally, I've tried comparing the vintage and the first reformulation side by side. The main difference would be the 'opening' note whereby the first reformulation smelt a little more citrus as compared to the vintage. Other than that, everything else is almost similar :)

** Need some help as to when the first reformulation ended and it became the second reformulation (black-black) **

Dior Homme Intense

Although DHI do not have two reformulation, it gets tricky as there wasnt a date that everybody agreed on. But with credits to a few veterans, especially Gerard_Butler (thanks bro!), I will list the closest estimated date.

1R04 should be the last batch of vintage as the estimated date of reformulation was sometime in May. Hence, anything before that should be considered good to go. Personally I've not tried either the vintage or reformulation so I cant really compare it for you guys, but from all the threads, most mentioned that the only main difference was longevity and sillage. Then again, there are also many others agreeing that vintage is still the best :)


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Thank you for reading such a long post. Should there be any errors or credits that were not given, please inform me so that I can correct them. As for those 'hunting' for vintage juice, good luck! :)
 
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Ete

Basenotes Junkie
Apr 27, 2009
Wow that is some great work.
Mine is 7H02. 2007 is correct but H is August. However, this may be because mine is a tester.
 

teemas

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 15, 2011
Hmm hopefully more Dior users could come and help out too haha. As far as I know, N,P,R,T,U,Z are all correct. Hence I assumed the list started from N since it was Jan and they probably skipped 'O' as it would be confusing to have 0O01. After counting, N to Z is exactly 12 after skipping 'O'.

As of now, I shall edit my post with H being Aug for testers. thanks for pointing out :)

Looking for more inputs if possible.
 

Ete

Basenotes Junkie
Apr 27, 2009
Just my guess: Since you said O was skipped it is also very likely that they skipped 'I' too, therefore that leaves us with 24 alphabets making it just right for 2 years. Of course, this is purely based on my speculation.

Hopefully more DH owners will come forward :)
 

teemas

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 15, 2011
Just my guess: Since you said O was skipped it is also very likely that they skipped 'I' too, therefore that leaves us with 24 alphabets making it just right for 2 years. Of course, this is purely based on my speculation.

Hopefully more DH owners will come forward :)

Now that you mentioned, it makes sense too! It would look weird with 1I10. Awesome man!

I admire your dedication and enthusiasm!

Thanks! Im hoping that there is a list that everyone could use when they are looking for vintage Diors :) It saves everyone the trouble of checking each box online. You could even ask the SA to bring out those bottles that you are looking for.
 

teemas

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 15, 2011
last 2 digits are the week number within a certain month.

0N03 : 2000 , Jan - 3rd week .

This is great! Looks like we have everything in order now. Going to add that in the first post. Thanks man!
 

Gerard_Butler

Basenotes Dependent
Nov 25, 2011
Great post!
This will greatly help me and a lot of other DHI fans and make our hunt for vintage DHI bottles a lot easier :p
 

ace11

Basenotes Junkie
Nov 8, 2011
Week number is important :)

For example, for DH :

Silver ring -silver tube - ( the original formulation of DH ) - produced until -2nd week of Sep-2010 code 0W02

Whereas 0W03 is Silver - Black (Ver1 formulation)
 

teemas

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 15, 2011
Thanks for enthusiasm but we are still missing exact dates when and which reformulation started. Keep working! :)) You can do it!

I will try my best to get the exact dates for the reformulation and post it later in the first post so that everything can be found there :) thanks for the suggestion!

Great post!
This will greatly help me and a lot of other DHI fans and make our hunt for vintage DHI bottles a lot easier :p

Hey bro! Thanks for helping me out with my reformulation questions too. Helped me greatly and I will probably post the dates in this post later :)

Week number is important :)

For example, for DH :

Silver ring -silver tube - ( the original formulation of DH ) - produced until -2nd week of Sep-2010 code 0W02

Whereas 0W03 is Silver - Black (Ver1 formulation)

Thats very detailed! Looks like I can add the reformulation date for DH in my post already :D By the way, if I didnt remember wrongly, the second reformulation for DH start this year July?
 

teemas

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 15, 2011
I feel like I'm back on the whisky boards :)

Hahaha whatsup with the whisky boards? :D

Anyway, updated the first post with help from everyone. Thanks again and should there be any mistakes, please let me know :)
 

osoblanco

Super Member
Apr 20, 2011
chances of seeing 1 as 2001 is quite impossible :)

Hence, with the example of 1N02, it would be produced/manufactured in year 2011.

From the batch number it could as well be from 2001, the only way to tell the decades apart would be from the box or bottle design ... at least when it comes to Fahrenheit.

A way to tell apart the the 1990s from the 2000s is the number on the bottom of the bottle. The 1990s are printed in white/silver, the 2000s are printed in black.

That being said, thank you for this insight into the numbering system! I had already figured out what the first digit meant, but I had no idea that the other digits were about about month and week!

Do you have any idea what to make of the very early Fahrenheit batch codes? They consist of four numbers and a letter, I even have one coded "1P533" ... any ideas?
 

Ajay83

Basenotes Member
Mar 31, 2012
I have both 1R04 and 1R05 and they are identical.
Maybe 1R05 was the absolute latest before the reformulation.
 

osoblanco

Super Member
Apr 20, 2011
I have both 1R04 and 1R05 and they are identical.
Maybe 1R05 was the absolute latest before the reformulation.

Sounds like it's from 2001, which would be the second reformulation. The last before the current one. By the way, the last digit accounts for the month it was produced.

Edit: I just realised you were not talking about Fahrenheit ... so you better forget what I said ... ;)
 
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martinijo

Basenotes Dependent
Sep 20, 2011
My 125 ml bottle of Dior Homme has the code "1V02" , so it's from August 2011. It has the black button, silver collar and black tube. An old thread states that the 2nd reformulation was marked by changing the collar from silver to black. I've never seen a black collar so I can't coment, but if it's true then the 2nd reform happened after August 2011. (I seem to remember the old thread said something like it started in September 2011, which sounds reasonable, but I don't have time to look it up just now.)
 

chrisuk

New member
Jan 3, 2013
Thanks for that! So do we own a vintage bottle lol I think we are just in there because someone was speaking about if it was a early batch of 2011 with the collar silver then it still was potent!
 

Paul P

Basenotes Dependent
Dec 9, 2012
Howdy,

I just wanted to add my thanks to the OP - that is some seriously time consuming and great detective work - as others have said, thanks for sharing.

Big UP
 

kusum65

Basenotes Junkie
Dec 29, 2007
Great work. I bought my DH from the drugstore just around the corner from me and the batch number is 0V02.
I'm guessing Dior were ditching the last of the vintage on pharmacists at a reduced price to make way for the reformulation .
I'll be checking tomorrow to see if there is any left
 

VanMarlton

Super Member
Jul 29, 2013
What about the number on the box itself? It has a different format, like 5 digits / letter. I did look it up and it turned up as Jan 2010. Is that legit?


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blacklit

Basenotes Member
Apr 15, 2011
i just found DH with batch code 0205 -- JAN 2010 according to checkcosmetic.net



strange since that code is not the same format as OP outlined. what do you guys make of this?





update..

unfortunately, it turned out to be 0Z02.. a disappointment :(



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VanMarlton

Super Member
Jul 29, 2013
Not sure about the format with just 4 digits but to answer my own question I asked earlier - the number on the box has a different format and somehow contradicts the cosmetic check website. That bottle I got from a pharmacy store turned out to be from summer of 2007 (it was four characters with number and letters on the bottle itself). When I looked up the number of the box it came up as Jan 2010.



With respect to the whole reformulation conspiracy all I can say is that 2007 vs now is all the same to me. They're Identical to an average folk like myself.



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rynegne

Basenotes Institution
Jul 25, 2012
I have a 0V02 batch as well. It's quite nice and leans a little heavier on the iris and lasts quite a bit longer. My silver tube does not have the "Dior" moniker etched on the tube, however. I'm guessing it's one of the first changes made to the bottle.


Great work. I bought my DH from the drugstore just around the corner from me and the batch number is 0V02.
I'm guessing Dior were ditching the last of the vintage on pharmacists at a reduced price to make way for the reformulation .
I'll be checking tomorrow to see if there is any left


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cameron

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 17, 2011
I'm calling BS on the whole 1st reformulation bottles.

Ok maybe first reformulation was lighter. But no one, and I mean no one, as been able to show a picture of a DH bottle that has black stem and collar. I think there must have been confusion with DHI - but no one can show a pic of the black-black DH that is supposedly first reform.



I have all "3 versions".

I have a 2009 and a September 2010 with silver-silver that is still vintage (0W02). Lots of iris on top.

I have a December 2010 that is black tube that would probably be considered 1st reform?

I have a 2012 that would be current juice.



To me the vintage is best, cause I like the iris. It smells like french perfumery.

Threads have said first reform is bad juice, but I have to say I prefer my December 2010 to the 2012 juice I own. The 2012 is a bit too alcoholy and watered down, which is what some posts say first reformulation from late 2010 and early 2011 are supposedly. I find the December 2010 to be very good - lots of cocoa in there. Different vs. vintage, but better than current 2012.



Just my 2 cents.



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professor goggles

Super Member
Aug 8, 2009
I just checked my two bottles. 8S02 and 2W01. Silver stem 2008 and black stem 2012, respectively. The first I bought years ago and the second was a gift. Definitely they smell different. Earlier bottle is better.
 

*bloomy*

Super Member
Feb 18, 2010
My bottle and box say 9Y01. I purchased directly from Dior, but I can't recall how many years ago. It has a silver collar and stem, but the stem isn't embossed at the bottom like some I've seen....Would this be 2009? Thanks!
 

*bloomy*

Super Member
Feb 18, 2010
Thanks for the feedback.

Also are the earlier (say 2006 or 2007) bottles of Dior Homme NOT etched with a batch code? I'm wondering if there are bottles with printed codes or if those might be fake. I thought all bottles had their batch codes etched into the glass, am I wrong?
 

FragFrog

Basenotes Dependent
Oct 6, 2018
Thanks for the feedback.

Also are the earlier (say 2006 or 2007) bottles of Dior Homme NOT etched with a batch code? I'm wondering if there are bottles with printed codes or if those might be fake. I thought all bottles had their batch codes etched into the glass, am I wrong?

I can tell you that even the 2005 ones had an etched batchcode on the backside of the bottle.
If you've got your bottle from Dior directly I'm pretty sure that it is legit.
 

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