Club de Nuit Intense Man vs. Creed Aventus

[Qwest_35]

I know how a lot of you on Basenotes feel about clones, I'm in the same boat, but after watching a review vid from Fragboy_Stewie I blind bought a bottle of this for $40 shipped. I've now had some time to the test it the past few days, and here are some of my findings. First off, let me say that Creed Aventus is one of my all time fave scents and I have never bought or smelled any other so called Aventus wannabe before. The first thing that impressed me was the quality, this juice is high end and doesn't feel cheap or smell synthetic at all, I would say quality wise it's on par with most frags in the $80-$100 dollar range. The initial blast is that fruity-smokey bomb that I love so much with my Aventus! To me it opens exactly like my M01 and W01 batches of Aventus, only thing is the Armaf has a noticeable lemony note in the open that is not in Aventus. I did a side by side comparison and sprayed one hand with Aventus and the other with Club de Nuit Intense Man and gave my girlfriend an impromptu blind nose test. Like me, she loves Aventus, I was amazed when she could not tell the difference, even after dry down these two are identical in smell, actually the Armaf seems to hold on to the pineapple note a bit longer on my skin, but both smell identical after 15 minutes on me. Needless to say, I was very impressed with the job Armaf did at capturing the smell and feel of my favorite cologne, and I wanted to see if it would get me the compliments that my Aventus does so often, so of course my next test was to wear it to work. I have a carpet cleaning business and I am in and out of peoples houses all day, and most of them are women, so basically, a pretty good scenario for feedback. The first day I received 2 unsolicited compliments, one coming nearly 6 hours into my day! Much like my Aventus, olfactory fatigue is the same with this one, because I had assumed that it was long gone by the time I got that compliment! This is my first bottle from the house of Armaf, and I am now really intrigued. Let me know if any of you out there have had tried this stuff, I'd be interested to hear your opinions. For me, it will never replace my Aventus, but instead will be my little fling on the side.

 

[hednic]

Glad you had a positive experience with the lesser priced fragrance. Personally I'm content staying with Aventus.

 

[Stalkerboy]

Glad you were convinced by my review mate. Great juice indeed! ��

 

[Qwest_35]

Glad you were convinced by my review mate. Great juice indeed! ��

Hey what's up Stewie? You were spot on with your review! I will check out more of your reviews in the future for sure.

 

[Bigsly]

Have you tried any of the other clone type scents?

 

[iwiffwaft]

Yeah. I ordered Derby Clubhouse Blanche because of liking Club De Nuit intense Man so much. I'm still waiting on it to come in the mail as I heard its a dead ringer to Silver Mountain Water. I've been reviewing all these clones and picked up Afnan which I found to be a pretty exact copy of my batch of Aventus. That being said, I actually prefer Armaf Club De Nuit. This is better than Aventus in many respects. Don't get me wrong, Aventus is a special fragrance, no doubt. Its just cost prohibitive. I absolutely cannot feel ok just lavishly using the stuff, which I want to do with a fragrance I like so much. All the other clones smell "cheap" to me. Not as much Afnan, but the Afnan is "Fruity" one dimensional, just like my batch of Aventus. Club De Nuit has more complexity than the current "fruitier" batches of Aventus that eschewed the smokier nuances. Gotta give it to Stewie for hitting a home run with this one!

 

[sjg3839]

Congrats on your purchase.

 

[freewheelingvagabond]

Congratulations on your discovery! :smiley:

Personally not a fan of Aventus.

 

[Cireal]

https://youtu.be/8M4ZpF3rLy8

Here is a link to a comparison video I made recently.

In case anyone is interested on how Club de Nuit compares to other Aventus clones and Aventus batches.

 

[stchman]

I have Derby Club House Blanche and it smells darn near as good as Silver Mountain Water. Tag HIm Pour Homme does a really good job of cloning Bleu de Chanel as well.

I have heard great things about Club de Nuit Intense Man and am curious. I own Aventus(one of my favorites), Insurrection II Pure, and Unpredictable Adventure. I really like them all.

 

[Qwest_35]

Soo, I was able to get my nose on AB Spirit Silver today and I am so glad I did not blind buy this disaster. At first spray, it's about 90% similar to Aventus, but after just a few minutes I start to smell a burnt tire note that is very off putting, that and black licorice. Club de Nuit Intense Man starts Aventus, and stays Aventus all the way and even after dry down. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I am actually starting to prefer the Armaf after dry down over my Aventus now. I'm making it a mission now to sample all the Aventus clones I can and see how they measure up, it's interesting and somewhat fun.

 

[stchman]

Try Insurrection II Pure and Glenn Perri Unpredictable Adventure, I find them to be really nice clones of Aventus.

 

[bigbz]

OP-my findings of Club De Nuit Intense are about on par with yours as well....with the exception of longevity.(didn't seem like I got more than 4 or 5hrs) BUT like you stated....with scents like Aventus I also tend to get anosmic to it quickly, so kind of tough for me to judge longevity on the Armaf. And yes, I've owned nearly all the clones with the exception of Silver Supremacy.....and this one is far and away the best so far with regard to capturing the complete scent profile/essence of the Creed. Very good juice,(and presentation!)especially for the price!:beer:

 

[Qwest_35]

Somebody is selling samples of Afnan Supremacy on ebay, I'm gonna have to buy one.

 

[Cireal]

Soo, I was able to get my nose on AB Spirit Silver today and I am so glad I did not blind buy this disaster. At first spray, it's about 90% similar to Aventus, but after just a few minutes I start to smell a burnt tire note that is very off putting, that and black licorice. Club de Nuit Intense Man starts Aventus, and stays Aventus all the way and even after dry down. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I am actually starting to prefer the Armaf after dry down over my Aventus now. I'm making it a mission now to sample all the Aventus clones I can and see how they measure up, it's interesting and somewhat fun.

I agree with you on the AB Spirit Silver comment. It does turn musty/tar smelling after a few mins and becomes a skin scent.

I've been getting good feedback on Armaf CdN Intense Man from both men and women. Mostly women give me compliments and they are ecstatic when doing so lol.

 

[bigbz]

Somebody is selling samples of Afnan Supremacy on ebay, I'm gonna have to buy one.

If you do, I would love to hear your take on the comparison of both.:thumbsup: I still think that with the availability of the Armaf vs. how hard it is to track down and pay the extra shipping(at least in US)for the Afnan.....it can't possibly be worth it.

 

[Qwest_35]

Try Insurrection II Pure and Glenn Perri Unpredictable Adventure, I find them to be really nice clones of Aventus.

I get about the same if not a little less longevity than my Aventus, and yes olfactory fatigue is real with both of these scents. I got complimented long after I could smell it on myself with both.

 

[iwiffwaft]

I've used both Armaf and Afnan Supremacy Silver. I don't think I'd recommend the Afnan given that Armaf is more available, less expensive, and really good quality. I also have given to preferring it to Aventus though. It's much more wearable for me. I like the quality and scent profile. That being said, Afnan has some particulars I like. To me, it smells exactly like my batch of Aventus, except the first 30 seconds or so of alcohol blast. That first 30 seconds is very alcoholic and it takes a bit for it to settle. When it does, its Aventus to my nose. Obviously, that's a big plus for it. However, it is obviously not a well blended EDP because of the alcohol, or maybe it just seems that way because Aventus is so good. The feeling I was left with was it wasn't as high quality as the Armaf. Even though it matched Aventus so much. The Longevity for it was the same as Aventus, and after several hours I could tell it had a more synthetic-ness to it. I've heard tell of people getting this with batches of Aventus too. I realize its a lot to drop 80 bucks on it when you haven't sampled it. I personally think I'll be wearing Armaf Club De Nuit the most and its my favorite.............but Afnan has a lot going for it as well. I own them all and were I to have only one......it would be Club De Nuit intense. I'll be interested in hearing Cereal's take since he's finally smelled it. He's been preaching Armaf longer than anyone I believe, so his comparisons to all the other cologne's are probably a very worthy watch (when he posts again on youtube).

 

[Cireal]

Afnan starts off a little synthetic in the first few minutes. I compared it to my K04 batch yesterday and it was not as sweet. There was more pineapple in the Aventus K04 batch. Once the dry down happened, the Afnan became a lot more faint compared to the Aventus. I can smell the birch and oak moss in the Afnan with a tiny bit of apple/pineapple. The Afnan didn't last that long on my skin but the time it did, it was soft. Afnan did smell fruity when I whaffed it but if I directly put my nose over it, it was mossy with a tad bit of pineapple/apple.

Today, I tried Afnan on one hand and a current Aventus batch on the other. I do not know the specific batch number since it was just sample from the Creed counter at Neiman's. There was no batch number on the tester. Now this particular batch is less fruity so the comparisons were definitely closer. The Afnan had more of a sharper smell to it but ALMOST identical with the Aventus in the first 20 mins. They both dry down about the same with the Afnan being a little more synthetic.

I also tried a Armaf CdN and Afnan comparison. The Armaf starts off stronger and more tart while the Afnan is lighter and less fruity. Afnan has little burnt/smokey smell to it. I seriously thought for a second I put on my Aventus sample on my hand. The average person would not distinguish Afnan from Aventus if it's by itself and to many, probably even next to Aventus. I was shocked on how close Afnan smelled to Aventus!! The closest I've ever smelled in the opening of any clone. Now I'm only going by the Aventus batches I've put my nose on which has been around 5 or so.

The dry down for the Armaf CdN is definitely almost my K04 batch and according to others, spot on to their batches. The Armaf CdN was more enjoyable than the Afnan because the depth to it. There was more going on and it wasn't as flat smelling. Armaf also lasted longer on the skin compared to Afnan. It was more robust and masculine than the Afnan. If the Afnan was $30, I'd give it a go but it's not therefore it will be background noise.

Overall the Afnan was the closest representation to a less fruity Aventus but then fades to a soft slightly synthetic mossy/birch Aventus. I've tried all the blatant clones at this point and Armaf takes it. The Afnan was impressive for the short duration it lasted but it is not worth the money you pay in my opinion.

 

[davidmichael42]

is this in a black bottle?

 

[Venjfel]

is this in a black bottle?

Yes it is a black bottle and it should say specifically for men.

 

[Venjfel]

Anyone know any eBay / online retailers that can ship club de nuit intense man to Canada?
Any input is much appreciated.

Since I keep hearing that this clone has the Birch Smokey aspect of older Aventus which I'm really curious about since my 2014 batches have no smoke..

Does the smoke to you guys make a big difference in the smell?

 

[davidmichael42]

where can you get this for $40.00 shipped like he said? id love to try it.

 

[davidmichael42]

I prefer the more smokey aventus myself

lillydirect has It for high $30s but hey are sold out. wont be back in for 2-3 weeks.

 

[Hawky454]

Glad you had a positive experience with the lesser priced fragrance. Personally I'm content staying with Aventus.

Me too!

 

[davidmichael42]

www.hishop.com has it for little over $40.00 afnan supremacy silver... but comes from a high risk country but they seem legit.

 

[iwiffwaft]

@ Cireal. Awesome take. I don't nearly have the olfactory vocabulary to explain all that. Definitely the way I would describe it if I did. Thanks for giving your take. I heartily agree. Also, for the guy who asked.....yes, the smokey (burnt wood) or birch note can be completely awesome when it is matched with the fruity blend. For me, its easy to think of it as a guitar or musical chord. If all the notes are hit right it sounds/smells awesome and they compliment each other.

That being said. I think Club De Nuit intense man does this the best. It smells really, really good. Alternatively,

I'll just use Glenn Perri's Unpredictable Adventure as an example.

The Charred wood type smell is dominant in that fragrance except at the beginning. That blast of fruitiness isn't strong or blended enough, so it can end up with you smelling like you just spilled some synthetic ashiness on yourself. It's obvious its intended to be like Aventus, so that's why I think people have favored it over ISP 2 Pure which is just overly Vanillic and synthetically femininely sweet by comparison.

Club De Nuit Intense doesn't suffer from ISP 2 Pure or GP UA's problems because it seems to have a better quality of ingredients and its blended better. I'm not sure if this is the correct vocabulary, but it just plays that chord right. It's in the ballpark of something like Polo Black maybe for strength and duration. Maybe Bleu De Chanel.....but that's pushing it a bit. It's a decent EDT that you can spray pretty liberally. Even then, it stays pleasant for a long time compared to all the other clones. Even Aventus gets that olfactory fatigue thing, so its about what you would expect from that. It's the best of the clones. The only other clone that is worth mentioning with Armaf's is Afnan's supremacy silver which Cireal explained as good as anyone could in my opinion.

 

[Bigsly]

where can you get this for $40.00 shipped like he said? id love to try it.

Let the smoky pineapple mania recommence! LOL.

 

[Cireal]

Cheers Todd!
Unpredictable Adventure is too synthetic and ashy. If you want to smell like a campfire that has just been blown out then go for it! I found it cloying to my nose.

 

[iwiffwaft]

LOL....Agreed. It was the best though, just like ISP 2 Pure was before that, then Fresco before that.

I can see without having wafted the better alternatives why people would think the previous lesser clones by Reyane and Glenn Perri are ok though. Then, someone comes along and says no, this is better, then this is better, then this is better etc. Eventually, you are just like, "Crap, I can't keep buying all of these", so you just stick with what you got.

I'm doubtful there will be anything as good as the Afnan and Armaf's though. Those two are pretty up there with what I'd expect to find, with the Armaf being the most ideal for a few reasons that have been mentioned. it's not surprising for me though because I've gotten some pretty insanely awesome clones from the middle east before. Surrati's tuscan leather and Oud Wood oils are way on point, if you can be ok with an oil dupe.

This Armaf company is such a gem..........especially with this Derby House blanche I just got. They weren't kidding when they said this was an absolute dead ringer of Silver Mountain Water. Wow.. Also, the presentation, boxing, etc. is great. Ingredients seem to be of good to high quality. I'm glad all you other guys have spoken up about it, not to prove others wrong, but to hopefully give that guy whose just coming along on this clone fiesta, some good advice about where to start. There's no reason to go through all the other clones if you just start with the Armaf. I hope that new guy who comes along reads everyone's advice, with the caveat of June 2 ,2015. As of this date, this is the most ideal clone.

 

[iwiffwaft]

Boy Club De Nuit Intense for Man is so good, its even better than Aventus!!!

 

[SmellyFinger]

Its too bad that you can not sample CdNIM so you can find out what it smells like and how it performs. Wait! If you sampled it, then you would know what it smells like and how it performs before you had to buy it.....Nevermind.....Go Texas

 

[sdotlow]

It's amusing how these new "clone hype" threads are conversations between a handful of new members that just recently joined. Odd, that.

 

[iwiffwaft]

There are some stores in Dallas you can smell it at, I believe. I bought it blind. It was my best blind buy ever, I think.

 

[NeoXerxes]

It's amusing how these new "clone hype" threads are conversations between a handful of new members that just recently joined. Odd, that.

This is how you promote cheap knockoffs.

 

[SmellyFinger]

There are some stores in Dallas you can smell it at, I believe. I bought it blind. It was my best blind buy ever, I think.

Yes.

I think there are some new BN members from Texas, new Fragrantica members from Texas, a local shop in Texas, an Ebay seller in Texas, and an Amazon seller in Texas. I guess Texas is a pretty big state that loves its Armaf....:grin: and its football.

 

[sdotlow]

Yes.

I think there are some new BN members from Texas, new Fragrantica members from Texas, a local shop in Texas, an Ebay seller in Texas, and an Amazon seller in Texas. I guess Texas is a pretty big state that loves its Armaf....:grin:

He just got banned

 

[SmellyFinger]

He just got banned

And it was just going to get interesting....

 

[Qwest_35]

Look everybody, I have no vested interest in Armaf or Creed. I just started this thread to let those people who are interested in buying "cheap knockoffs" as you call them, hear my personal experience with Armaf Cdni. I think it's hilarious how many people on here get so defensive about Creed, almost like they're magic elixirs that cannot be replicated. I have worn Aventus from the beginning, and I still will continue to buy and wear Aventus, but I have to give credit to Armaf, they have replicated my signature scent very well, and did it with an edt that cost a fraction of the price. If you have not tried Armaf CdNi then how can you even make a judgement on it, I have, and no, it is not better than Aventus, but it's a fine fragrance and I think it's unfair to just write this one off as just another "cheap knockoff" if you've never gave it a sniff.

 

[NeoXerxes]

Look everybody, I have no vested interest in Armaf or Creed. I just started this thread to let those people who are interested in buying "cheap knockoffs" as you call them, hear my personal experience with Armaf Cdni. I think it's hilarious how many people on here get so defensive about Creed, almost like they're magic elixirs that cannot be replicated. I have worn Aventus from the beginning, and I still will continue to buy and wear Aventus, but I have to give credit to Armaf, they have replicated my signature scent very well, and did it with an edt that cost a fraction of the price. If you have not tried Armaf CdNi then how can you even make a judgement on it, I have, and no, it is not better than Aventus, but it's a fine fragrance and I think it's unfair to just write this one off as just another "cheap knockoff" if you've never gave it a sniff.

No one is being defensive about Creed, and certainly no one is suggesting that they are "magic elixirs that cannot be replicated". My point has simply been that you cannot successfully replicate a fragrance with cheap, synthetic ingredients. The quality will not be there.

It's a cheap knockoff. I am not going to pay for a fragrance that will undoubtedly be inferior to the original, just to say that I have tried it. I am content with paying for Aventus and have no need or desire to pay for knockoffs.

However, if you enjoy those knockoffs, that's perfectly fine. To each his own. They are not for me.