Bortnikoff perfumes (take note Areej le Dore fans!)

Bangkok Hound

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Russian Adam's partner at Feel Oud, Dmitry Bortnikoff has started his own perfume house. Like Areej le Dore, Bortnikoff's compositions are created in small, limited edition batches using quality, natural ingredients. There are three initial offerings. Bortnikoff's website can be found here: http://bortnikoff.com

Samples are expensive, but of a generous size. My Instagram friend bought the sample set and graciously sent them to me to try. He subsequently bought full bottles of all three.

Nikhil (BN's own exoticscents) brought these fragrances to my attention through his Instagram posts. And he has just uploaded a video on them:




I've only tested them once, but here are my thoughts:

Bonheur: I recognize the real ambergris (thanks to Atlantic Ambergris) along with some spices. There is then also a mossy, earthy, greenness which turns rather vegetal. I love green notes, but this vegetal green doesn't sit well with me. It's similar to something I get from Memoir Man and Slumberhouse's Grev. I suspect that if I wear this normally on my chest then this wouldn't bother me so much versus sniffing my arm as I did when testing.

Coup de Foudre: Very floral opening with sweet citrus, but it doesn't feel feminine at all. I also get a dry smokiness, but looking at the notes, I'm not sure what that is. Sandalwood (Feel Oud's 100k sandalwood oil is an ingredient) then comes through along with florals.

Mysterious Oud: Woody and resinous in the beginning before the oud shines which has a very leathery profile to me. It ends with vanillic woodiness. This is nothing like Areej le Dore's oud to me. I suspect that will disappoint many, but I find it more wearable and a nice change of pace.

Here's my pic of the sample presentation:
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While there are obvious parallels to Areej le Dore including the presentation, I don't think these could be confused with Areej le Dore's. Bortnikoff has his own style.


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thebeck

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Mar 25, 2007
I was wondering why the three sample set was $100.00 considering the bottle prices didn't warrant the price.
I see the samples are 5ml each, not the typical 1.5-2ml. Nice size samples, but if you don't like one or two or none at all that's a hefty sample investment.
Personally I would be more interested if the sample set was 2.5ml for $50.00.
Or better yet 1.5ml set for $30.00
Or better yet I'll agree with Bangkok Hound a 1ml set for $20.00 would get many more interested in sampling.
The heck with a fancy presentation on samples.
Plain vials or sprays in bubble wrap works for me.
5ml is just to much juice to invest in for sampling purposes IMO.
So they have already turned me off, and I won't be sampling.
 
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Bangkok Hound

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I was wondering why the three sample set was $100.00 considering the bottle prices didn't warrant the price.
I see the samples are 5ml each, not the typical 1.5-2ml. Nice size samples, but if you don't like one or two or none at all that's a hefty sample investment.
Personally I would be more interested if the sample set was 2.5ml for $50.00.

I think the price will put a lot of people off, though it's reasonable for what you get. At 5ml I wouldn't really ever need full bottles considering how many bottles I own. Personally, I'd prefer 1ml samples at $20.

Thanks for the heads up. How would you describe Bortnikoff’s style?

This is tough. I think at first you notice what seems like a ton of naturals being used and it's like a (good) punch in the face, which seems like they are more complex. But in the end they seem more approachable than Areej le Dore's. Mysterious Oud, I believe is more wearable than Areej's ouds and Coup de Foudre is an easier wear than say Flux de Fleur. There I am comparing the two houses, but I guess it's unavoidable. Anyway, these are my thoughts after only an initial testing, so take it with a grain of salt. Having said that, I could see myself with full bottles of those two.
 

thebeck

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Mar 25, 2007
I think the price will put a lot of people off, though it's reasonable for what you get. At 5ml I wouldn't really ever need full bottles considering how many bottles I own. Personally, I'd prefer 1ml samples at $20.



This is tough. I think at first you notice what seems like a ton of naturals being used and it's like a (good) punch in the face, which seems like they are more complex. But in the end they seem more approachable than Areej le Dore's. Mysterious Oud, I believe is more wearable than Areej's ouds and Coup de Foudre is an easier wear than say Flux de Fleur. There I am comparing the two houses, but I guess it's unavoidable. Anyway, these are my thoughts after only an initial testing, so take it with a grain of salt. Having said that, I could see myself with full bottles of those two.

Thanks for your input. I find it interesting you bring up the wearability factor. I find most of the Areej le Dore to be unwearable or unenjoyable. Glad to hear these might be less challenging. Lately I don't seem to want to challenged, I just want great smell on first whiff.
 

sss

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Jun 30, 2015
Just blind bought all 3 perfumes and I'd just like to say dealing with Mr Bortnikoff has been such a wonderful experience. I contacted him through the WatsApp number on the website thinking it may be a representative from his company talking to me but it was the man himself.

He was very helpful, very patient and answered any questions I had...And that was at 6am Thailand time!

Now I'm looking forward to the perfumes arriving and I hope they are as exceptional as the service I've received so far.
 

thebeck

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Mar 25, 2007
Just blind bought all 3 perfumes and I'd just like to say dealing with Mr Bortnikoff has been such a wonderful experience. I contacted him through the WatsApp number on the website thinking it may be a representative from his company talking to me but it was the man himself.

He was very helpful, very patient and answered any questions I had...And that was at 6am Thailand time!

Now I'm looking forward to the perfumes arriving and I hope they are as exceptional as the service I've received so far.

Wow, you sure ave more faith than I do. $800.00 blind buy. I hope all three turn out to be great for you. Please report back after you've had a chance to wear them.
 

wood&leather

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Apr 27, 2018
Extremely intrigued by the Coupe de Foudre, and willing to buy someones' sample off them. I'd love to get the discovery set but I've been nickel and diming myself to hell lately and need to restrain. I don't want to spend that money and end up with another Russian Musk situation on my hands.
 

sss

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Jun 30, 2015
Yeah I know. I hope they are great. Let's see how it goes. I don't think I'll be buying anymore perfume for the rest of the year with what ive purchased in the last week! :sad:
 

wood&leather

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Apr 27, 2018
Yeah I know. I hope they are great. Let's see how it goes. I don't think I'll be buying anymore perfume for the rest of the year with what ive purchased in the last week! :sad:

my sentiments exactly. I'm waiting on a blind $250 ASQ Safari Incense buy to arrive as it is, and I only did that because I know for a fact the OG attar by them is breath taking. definitely want to get my hands on a sample of coupe de foudre though.
 

sss

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Jun 30, 2015
my sentiments exactly. I'm waiting on a blind $250 ASQ Safari Incense buy to arrive as it is, and I only did that because I know for a fact the OG attar by them is breath taking. definitely want to get my hands on a sample of coupe de foudre though.

I have high hopes especially if it is similar quality to Areej. I've also ordered Russian Musk and Russian Oud last week, lol so maybe no perfume for the whole of next year! :cry:

I'll be going Dubai next month so I'll have a chance to smell Safari Incense there. It's a shame there isn't the 50% discount on the website.
 

wood&leather

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Lol was Russian Musk that bad?

I hope I haven't made a mistake purchasing it.

Not at all. In fact, I think it's the perfect compliment to Russian Oud. I find russian oud to be sensual and intimate. I almost wear it strictly at home when I'm relaxing after a long day and enjoying some brown liquor. Character wise, I find Russian Musk to be the daytime/social version of russian oud. The bergamot&musk blend is very enjoyable, but at nearly $400 I would prefer my day time frag to occasionally waft up to my nose for me to enjoy and not require me to bury my nose into my arm after dry down.

Edit: In hindsight, Fleux de Fleur is the unique and good performing "daily driver" ALD fragrance I'd rather have.
 
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sss

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Just received an update regarding the perfumes.

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Very nice presentation. Really impressed with the experience so far. Fingers crossed the perfumes are great!
 

Bangkok Hound

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Sounds positive. What is the projection and sillage like?

I've only tested (overnight) Mysterious Oud a few times, but it passes my test in that it's still there in the morning when I wake up. I think it is probably the best when it comes to performance of the three.

Those of you who like (real) sandalwood should enjoy Coup de Foudre as that note is the main player in the drydown.
 

thebeck

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Mar 25, 2007
There is now a sample set with 1.5ml samples for $35 on the website: http://bortnikoff.com/product/sample-set/

That tells me Bornikoff Perfumes is paying attention to this blog, and responding to some of our gripes about the 5ml $100.00 samples.
Bornikff gets tons of points from me for listening, and coming up with a very balanced and thought out solution. I can now consider buying a sample set, and I hope many others here do the same. It's rare that a company will listen to complaints and respond so swiftly.That alone makes me want to do business with them.

KUDOS TO BORNIKOFF IF YOUR READING
 

TNBLUEMIKE

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Oct 1, 2013
Lol was Russian Musk that bad?

I hope I haven't made a mistake purchasing it.

In my humble opinion Russian Musk is awesome. In fact each time I wear it something else seems to shine through just the opening is intoxicating then the progressive drydown keeps you in rapture. I really don't want to wear anything else at the moment. It has captivated me this much. Russian Adam has mastered this concoction to perfection.

For the Botnikoff perfumes are they in 50ml bottles?
 

TNBLUEMIKE

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Oct 1, 2013
I've only tested (overnight) Mysterious Oud a few times, but it passes my test in that it's still there in the morning when I wake up. I think it is probably the best when it comes to performance of the three.

Those of you who like (real) sandalwood should enjoy Coup de Foudre as that note is the main player in the drydown.

Both those offerings seem magical. Thank you for your reviews.
 

sss

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Jun 30, 2015
Yes they're all 50ml. From what I was told, there are 100 bottles of Mysterious Oud and Coup de Foudre and 50 bottles of Bonheur.
 

TNBLUEMIKE

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Yes they're all 50ml. From what I was told, there are 100 bottles of Mysterious Oud and Coup de Foudre and 50 bottles of Bonheur.

Excellent! I am tossing up a blind buy either for Mysterious oud or Coup de Foudre. If you have some time with either please give some of your experiences as I will monitor this thread with anticipation. I hope you enjoy these as much as you do Russian Adam's offerings. Surely working together they have shared ideas and experiences.
 

joe king

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Apr 28, 2017
I see as well as offering smaller samples sizes, they come with "leakage protection". This is good because my 5ml sample set leaked, although dimitry did offer to replace the whole set which was very considerate.I am still deciding how much I like them, you can smell some quality ingredients but they haven't wowed me.
 

joeribt

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Jun 10, 2017
I have now sampled the three fragrances. I expected them to be powerhouses à la Areej but they are definitely not. These are very smooth and high quality fragrances, but I am having a hard time smelling them. I ordered the smaller sample set so the sprayer itself is small as well. By using 7-8 sprays, which I think equals one or two sprays from a bottle, I still get very moderate projection. Not sure yet which one I liked the most, also not sure if this is full bottle worthy to me.

A question for others who have tried these: Mysterious Oud is a very intriguing smell, but I don't get oud at all, something which surprises me a lot given the notes breakdown. What is your experience with this scent?
 

rynegne

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Jul 25, 2012
Mysterious Oud sounds really interesting, but I'd like to hear more about it first before busting open my wallet. I found many of Areej's perfumes WAY too heavy on the florals for my liking and I see quite a few floral notes listed on this. Anyone have experience?
 

thebeck

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Mar 25, 2007
Mysterious Oud sounds really interesting, but I'd like to hear more about it first before busting open my wallet. I found many of Areej's perfumes WAY too heavy on the florals for my liking and I see quite a few floral notes listed on this. Anyone have experience?

strifeknot is hosting a split on all 3 if that helps
 

mikeperez23

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I got my decant of Coup de Foudre in & it's my SOTD. I love it.

Where I sprayed it on the crooks of my elbows on both arms, the skin got all red and tingly. So yep this baby has got lots of naturals! lol. Not a big deal, the redness went away. Maybe it has cinnamon in it (Madhat's SantL has the same effect on my skin).

There's a whole bunch going on with this scent - I need time to post my thoughts.
 

Niche_Addict07

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Mar 11, 2018
I went blind as I love areej le dore fragrances I went with Bonheur blindly with the sample set as well so we’ll see and I’ll report back on my thoughts when there in hand.


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euronymous

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May 17, 2018
In a nutshell to me mysterious oud carries a scent memory of walking into a tire store. I love that smell, it has much more going on but for me I love just closing my eyes and thinking of tires as I inhale deep. Coup is a great fresh floral wonderful for this time of year to cut trough the heat. Bonheur is in vein of Atlantic ambergris but the spices used compared to the later don't feel as fresh and bright, but a little heavier and darker. no it's not beast mode, does it have to be? That for you to decide, so with any fragrance I can and will only recommend to sample first.
 

Diamondflame

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Thanks for the impressions, guys. I might get in on strifeknot’s split next month. Don’t feel like shelling out for hefty shipping just for samples.
 

Niche_Addict07

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Mar 11, 2018
Well got my first package in and I must say I am impressed. I sprung for a 50Ml bottle of Bonheur and the sample pack.

First impressions I think a bottle of cope de foudre is my next bottle. I wasn’t blown away by the mystic Oud maybe because I’m not the biggest Oud fan but it may grow on me.
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