Another Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male thread - Multiple photos of vintage bottles. Experts chime in!

khaltire

Active member
Dec 22, 2006
Hey all,

I've been on a hunt for some vintage Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male fragrances lately as I used to wear it in my 20s. The weather is getting colder and I remember it's a great cool weather scent.

Anyways, I've picked up a couple bottles over the last year, and thought I would share the differences. There are subtle differences in smell, and also in boldness of the stripes on the bottles. There are differences in the stickers, depending on when they were made or if they were testers. There are differences depending on whether it was a sticker, or engraved. Differences before and after reformulation. I figure this would be help anyone who in curious. There is so much variety out there that any new information will help anyone in their search. Please see the photos, and information below.

Firstly, all 3 Bottles, from left to right. 75ml 'G' batch (1999), 125ml 'D' batch (1996), 200ml PUIG Made in Spain (newest 2017 reformulation).
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Comparison boldness of the white stripes. Interesting how the 99 is the boldest, 96 is faint, and 2017 is the faintest. I also have a 2004 bottle no pictured that is about as faint as the 2017.
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Color of the juices, 96 and 99 are same color. 2017 PUIG is slightly yellow but not compared to the older ones. The question is, will the 2017 become yellow over time? I swear when I originally got this fragrance it was never dark yellow but I could be wrong, it's been so long. Some of the bottles are 15+ years old, the oldest being 22 years old. Incredible.
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Bottom of 1996 Tester 'D' Batch
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Bottom of 1999 75ml 'G' Batch
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What else can I say? The bottles are all very similar to be perfectly honest, but there are minor subtle differences. It could have something to do with age, or storage over time. I don't know the history of a few of the these bottles. the 1996 was from a collector 99% full, the 1999 75ml I bought off craigslist for $30 this week which was 50% full (good deal IMO), the 2017 was brand new from a department store around 2017 Xmas.

In terms of the differences, the 1996 has a very powdery vanilla, pretty good longevity and sillage, although not as nuclear as I remember (aka mustard gas LOL). the 1999 bottle has a very different smell from the 1996, it has almost a dirtier smell, like an added element to it that was missing from the 1996 bottle. There is definitely a B.O. and cumin element to it, which I'm sure this is what I was smelling in this 1999 bottle. This was not present in the 1996 bottle (one of the first batches), but maybe it has to do with the way it was stored, from a regular guy vs a collector. I don't know if that's disappeared over time or this cumin smell was added a few years later. No way to be sure, however it is supposed to be in the notes of the fragrance. I don't remember smelling this way back in the day, which I found even more interesting. Something that people who love this fragrance will be suprised to hear is that I would say the recent reformulation from PUIG in Spain smells 95% like the original 1996 bottle I have. The difference being it is a little less powdery vanilla and more minty, perhaps only initially, but smells fantastic. It is actually very strong, I'm almost tempted to say stronger than the vintage bottles I have. The only difference seems to be the longevity on the 2017 bottle, but further testing is required.

If I had the rank the fragrances overall, I would go as follows:

Sillage
1999 > 2017 = 1996 (this is very tricky to tell, however)

Longevity
1999 = 1996 > 2017

Overall smell
1999 > 1996 = 2017 -- This was tough for me, all the vintage lovers are going to kill me. I think I like the dirtier smelling 1999 bottle I got the best, it could have this smell due to improper storage and heat. Also, the 1996 and the 2017 are both very good for different reasons. I really like that initial mint blast in the 2017, but I also like top notes of the 1996 bottle.

Moral of the story, if you like Le Male, go for a 2017 bottle from PUIG and save yourself the money from the vintage bottles. The Made in Spain PUIG bottles are wonderful. The Made in France is marginally different (although it is), and I would try to get the Made in Spain if you can. If not, Made in France should do.

Cheers
 

Nouveau Nez

Well-known member
Sep 21, 2011
Thanks for your detailed analysis!! Great to hear that the newer formulation holds its own against the vintage. Curious to know if you are a fan of the Essence de Parfum version with the amped up leather?? Personally, I think it's my favorite.
 

ripjean

Well-known member
Feb 9, 2014
The colour of juice is definitely lighter on newer formulation. Picture below is 2003, 2012 and 2004 bottles. Older formulation lasts much longer to me and smells richer and more dense to my nose. 20180318_144614.jpg
 

khaltire

Active member
Dec 22, 2006
Nouveaunez, do you think it's worth a blind buy for 4.2oz for around $75 sealed in package? I've never smelled it before. Watched some reviews last night. Some people said it smells nothing like le male. I wonder what it would be like to layer the two?

Ripjean, looks like your 2012 is the BPI formulation after it it changed for the worse in 2010 (if I recall correctly). I have smelled that batch it smells like a ghost of it's former self, not surprised you feel that way. However, that doesnt seem to be the case with the newer PUIG version. Color is the same on both, light yellow.
 

Nouveau Nez

Well-known member
Sep 21, 2011
Nouveaunez, do you think it's worth a blind buy for 4.2oz for around $75 sealed in package? I've never smelled it before. Watched some reviews last night. Some people said it smells nothing like le male. I wonder what it would be like to layer the two?

Hey, khaltire - usually my default answer re: blind buys is a resounding "NO!!" but in your case, I would probably make an exception. :) You're obviously a hardcore fan of Le Male and IMO, Essence de Parfum does not stray that far afield from the original - apart from a much more pronounced leather note. If you are familiar with Carolina Herrera Prive, the leather accord is similar. But it's absolutely baffling if people are saying that the DNA of the original Le Male is not present. I'm horrible at breaking down fragrance accords but rest assured that this is absolutely not an entirely different fragrance - not even close. I'd be happy to send you a couple samples if you'd like. I know that I was able to get mine for about $65 but that's here in the US.
 

khaltire

Active member
Dec 22, 2006
Hi everyone,

Got another bottle today locally off craigslist for $55 CAD, pretty good deal for unsprayed tester. I wasn't able to spray before buying, I figured eh what the hell Im a big enough fan, Ill gamble on it.

This is an interesting bottle for several reasons. It is an R serial code, RJ231, which was quite rare and dates back to 2009 (supposedly). Rumor has it reformulations came somewhere between 2009 and 2010, so definitely taking a chance on this one. From what I understand, bottles right before the reformulation had bold white stripes, after that, Im not sure if they went to faint white stripes, or if there was a crossover period. It is pretty much hit or miss to know whether or not if this has been refomulated prior to or after this bottle, Im finding it hard to tell. It smells different than other vintage bottles I have, it doesn't have that dirty element found in the early 2000s and late 90s bottles. Another interesting thing, is that the color of the bottle is not the greenish yellow juice we right away associate with vintage. The color actually falls between my older yellow juice bottles and the newer 2016 PUIG reformulations above. Actually, falls exactly right in the middle. It could also just be that my other bottles are vintage, this is one of the first reformulation and hence the lighter color.

I guess an interesting question would does anyone remember back in the day if the juice was greenish / dark yellow when new? As in, when they first purchased it retail for the first time back in the vintage days, was it that dark yellow green color? Or do you remember it being lighter (similar to this bottle I got today). Its possible that the juice originally starts out lighter, and evolves and changes to dark over time. I don't believe this has ever been confirmed anywhere in my research or reading any forums. I'd certainly be curious to know.

If the evolution of color from lighter to darker happens with time, then this would appear to be a bottle that is right between a 2004 bottle, and a 2017 bottle and is just progressing over time. Interesting either way! I will further test the tester to see if its the reformulated one or not, as I'm not 100% sure as of yet. If someone wants to contribute to the nerdy research on Le Male, then please post a photo of the color of juice in a vintage bottle (2008 or earlier) side by side with a 2010-2015 BPI reformulation bottle. That might help give a definite answer on if this bottle is post reform or pre reform.

Pics below.

Left to right: 2004 > 2009 (new) > 2016 PUIG

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Cheers! The search continues
 

Dantheman123

Active member
Dec 3, 2018
Hi everyone,

Got another bottle today locally off craigslist for $55 CAD, pretty good deal for unsprayed tester. I wasn't able to spray before buying, I figured eh what the hell Im a big enough fan, Ill gamble on it.

This is an interesting bottle for several reasons. It is an R serial code, RJ231, which was quite rare and dates back to 2009 (supposedly). Rumor has it reformulations came somewhere between 2009 and 2010, so definitely taking a chance on this one. From what I understand, bottles right before the reformulation had bold white stripes, after that, Im not sure if they went to faint white stripes, or if there was a crossover period. It is pretty much hit or miss to know whether or not if this has been refomulated prior to or after this bottle, Im finding it hard to tell. It smells different than other vintage bottles I have, it doesn't have that dirty element found in the early 2000s and late 90s bottles. Another interesting thing, is that the color of the bottle is not the greenish yellow juice we right away associate with vintage. The color actually falls between my older yellow juice bottles and the newer 2016 PUIG reformulations above. Actually, falls exactly right in the middle. It could also just be that my other bottles are vintage, this is one of the first reformulation and hence the lighter color.

I guess an interesting question would does anyone remember back in the day if the juice was greenish / dark yellow when new? As in, when they first purchased it retail for the first time back in the vintage days, was it that dark yellow green color? Or do you remember it being lighter (similar to this bottle I got today). Its possible that the juice originally starts out lighter, and evolves and changes to dark over time. I don't believe this has ever been confirmed anywhere in my research or reading any forums. I'd certainly be curious to know.

If the evolution of color from lighter to darker happens with time, then this would appear to be a bottle that is right between a 2004 bottle, and a 2017 bottle and is just progressing over time. Interesting either way! I will further test the tester to see if its the reformulated one or not, as I'm not 100% sure as of yet. If someone wants to contribute to the nerdy research on Le Male, then please post a photo of the color of juice in a vintage bottle (2008 or earlier) side by side with a 2010-2015 BPI reformulation bottle. That might help give a definite answer on if this bottle is post reform or pre reform.

Pics below.

Left to right: 2004 > 2009 (new) > 2016 PUIG

q3bpKYF.jpg

ZIFOXKm.jpg

xUuVUwU.jpg

WADtmGL.jpg



Cheers! The search continues

I would agree with the color discrepancy and the above mentioned difference in color stripe patterns. I have several bottles of Le Male ranging from years; 2005, 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016. I also have Le Fleur de Male all white bottle ULU23X. I bought a bottle of bpi in 2014-2015 and I got nothing but compliments. I remember the wind blowing and a man standing approx 12 feet away asking me 'what was that? Because he liked it so much! I remember the juice being slightly yellowish. All I can tell you is that there's alot of debate on vintages, batch codes and matching them. It's a puzzle. But, the good news that I found was that the bpi versions made in France are quite good. I have a 2005 and it's very gingery & deceptive. Sometimes I can smell it, sometimes I can't, I believe it's the la cologne tonique, but the BPI version just won't quit! If you can find any bottle that says BPI, you won't go wrong! I have over 13 and they just don't stop. Also, I have just ordered a dark striped 4.2oz tester bottle, I hear it's the preformed version. I shall see and update. Dark green bottle batch code is WSU57X. The La Cologne Tonique batch code is LCK04X. The Le Fleur de Male all white bottle is already mentioned above. I love this fragrance and from what I hear, the 1995 version was out if this world!!!
 

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dragoslav

Member
Jun 21, 2019
do someone have an idea batch number YAM24 X from which year is.I send a message to JPG website about batch codes and they reply to me:

"Further to your inquiry, we inform you that were are not able to advise on batch codes of our fragrance as this is confidential information."
 

croix123

Member
Mar 19, 2020
I would agree with the color discrepancy and the above mentioned difference in color stripe patterns. I have several bottles of Le Male ranging from years; 2005, 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016. I also have Le Fleur de Male all white bottle ULU23X. I bought a bottle of bpi in 2014-2015 and I got nothing but compliments. I remember the wind blowing and a man standing approx 12 feet away asking me 'what was that? Because he liked it so much! I remember the juice being slightly yellowish. All I can tell you is that there's alot of debate on vintages, batch codes and matching them. It's a puzzle. But, the good news that I found was that the bpi versions made in France are quite good. I have a 2005 and it's very gingery & deceptive. Sometimes I can smell it, sometimes I can't, I believe it's the la cologne tonique, but the BPI version just won't quit! If you can find any bottle that says BPI, you won't go wrong! I have over 13 and they just don't stop. Also, I have just ordered a dark striped 4.2oz tester bottle, I hear it's the preformed version. I shall see and update. Dark green bottle batch code is WSU57X. The La Cologne Tonique batch code is LCK04X. The Le Fleur de Male all white bottle is already mentioned above. I love this fragrance and from what I hear, the 1995 version was out if this world!!!

hello.. is that batch 2016 JEAN PAUL GAULTIER still bpi version or change to puig already ? thanks
 

massivemelon

New member
Jul 14, 2020
90 days from my Feb 2020 post and I am still obsessed with this scent. I have over 7 bottles now ranging from 95-2010.

I can definitely say you are right about the 'dirtier' smelling version, this would be the second formulation that ran roughly 2004-2011.

The first dark yellow super vintage version is much more powdery and a total vanilla bomb. *tilts head* I don't think I like that one as much either, its more childlike and juvenile. Then oddly the newest PUIG version is mainly floral based like an older women scent- least the sample gave this vibe.

The second version is slightly more dirtier and spicier than the other one and a lighter yellow juice. It's much sexier and more balanced. I can't tell if it's stronger or not than the first version, perhaps not but not by much.

What still boggles my mind is the batch number determination. From my study A=1995 B=1996 C=1997 and so fourth. This isn't always the case tho. I've seen late letters in super early batches and scratch my head.

How is YOUR 'G' batch from 1999 and 'D' batch from 1996 if the cologne started in 1995??? Am I missing something here?

I'm trying to avoid R/S batches and after that (clear weak / synthetic batches seen as early as 2010) but I see yellow tinted juice in X batch numbers!?

I can't get myself to ever buy a Y or X unless someone can explain- why is the juice yellow in some of these???

Was JPG phasing out the remaining of its old formulation?

Any other JPG Le Male fans out there that can explain this batch # discrepancy?

Teach this newbie lol


I've done a lot of research on this recently and what's confusing is that JPG had a run of letters in 1995. How you can tell is if it is a 75008 area code, it is a 1995 bottle. So OPs '1999' G bottle is most likely a 1995!

Then I believe in 1996 they moved to 75116 and started changing letters less often, so the D batch (with 75116 code) is around 96/97, and it goes up by roughly one letter per year from there.
 
Jan 30, 2020
Sorry for reviving this thread but i am obsessed with le male hunting old batches, got D batch same as OP, so its 25 year old bottle? lol also got BPI X batch, whích is what year?
 

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