All Things Ensar Oud

[Xcaliber6685]

finally getting my nose on some new ensar (to me at least):

homeros sq: i had an og sample of homeros that smelled way better than the attar i purchased. this scratched the itch. i love this, it’s not a smoke bomb but it has probably the best smoke note i’ve ever smelled without going overboard. it’s distinctly mineralic and i definitely imagine the mediterranean, the oud is medicinal here and provides support. incredibly unique and to me nearly the pinnacle of perfume. easily top 5 of all time..

tibetan musk edp: really pretty mediocre. it’s not hugely musky at all and though the initial chocolate blast is enjoyable the dry down feels like a generic fruit and floral forward french composition, entirely forgettable but not a terrible perfume- just not really unique or worth paying the cost. i must be missing something to people who love this.

so some questions: what would you recommend if i like homeros sq and other favorite smoky or just highly complex masculine ensars? i know moshpit pavarotti is smoky, though i’ve heard very mixed reviews..

if i don’t like TM is eo2 also similar enough to not sample? or is that deeply musky? i know with so many releases there is always some overlap, are his florals generally kind of like this and therefore skipable if i find this just okay?

Homeros OG remains my favorite edition, the beautiful woody smokiness is the main reason why I bought MP to get more of it, which is a smoke bomb and I love it whenever I'm in the mood for it. You probably would enjoy the Thai Tabac OG and C&P OG if you could find them in used market, but for newer releases, OSK is super masculine, same goes for Tigerwood, and the latest Oud SQ, they are leaning on the darker side but very masculine.

Sample EO2, Siber Extreme, Private Blend if you can, but for me....NFU and the latest Musc Gardenia are super beastly musk bombs, NFU can be challenging for some but the Tonkin musk from it hit hard and deep, same goes for the Mongolian from the new Musc Gardenia, so heavy in muskiness that it made a lot of people goes noseblind after 10~15min and couldn't smell it anymore. lol

 

[Cheetah1919]

OSK, yep that’s the other one I wish I could get ahold of! Wish there more splitters, lol

 

[Dr B1414]

Happiness is, finding another OG Sultan Leather attar bottle. And the future looks better now

 

[Chaileeto]

Hey everyone! As a person who usually dislikes sweet smelling perfumes, I was surprised to find out that I absolutely love Tibetan Musk (specially the EDP version). I was wondering if anyone has found any other perfumes out there (not neccesarily from EO but I do prefer mostly natural houses) that share similar nuances....I am not sure but I can not think of any other perfume that even comes close to the scentprofile..... Would love to hear your toughts and experiences.

 

[bl00drunzcold]

Nobody fall for the scam in the marketplace for the EO1, EO2, and EO3 special editions or the Bogue AG. They’ve already scammed at least one person and mods have been made aware.

 

[Mak-7]

Oh, was profile hacked or something?
Person looks credible.

 

[bl00drunzcold]

Oh, was profile hacked or something?
Person looks credible.

No idea but from what I understand, money was taken for AG and it’s been offered to others after that fact.

 

[Mak-7]

Too bad.i got in on it as well. Gotta call my bank now

 

[Proust_Madeleine]

Yo the Ensar Oud Oud fest ones are obviously scams. Those pictures are my pics from when I sold them. Even my apartment and my hands in the pics!!! Do not fall for it!

Sorry for anyone who got hit by this. Always sucks when someone takes advantage of the good community we have here.

 

[bl00drunzcold]

Here’s the original AG ad from months ago, same pics and wording.


I knew the Ensar Ouds were too good to be true, those prices were obviously cash grab prices.

 

[bl00drunzcold]

Too bad.i got in on it as well. Gotta call my bank now

Damn that sucks man. Hope you get a favorable outcome.

 

[Mak-7]

Damn that sucks man. Hope you get a favorable outcome.

Thank you. I hope so too 🙂

 

[Dorje123]

Always have the seller send you a pic with today's date and your name on a piece of paper with the item for sale, and pay using goods and services to the seller's account only. There's SO MANY scams these days, can't be too careful.

 

[bl00drunzcold]

I don’t know why the listings are still up tbh.

 

[Mak-7]

If it was newbie, then yeah, extra caution applies, but persons account was in good standing from what i gathered, so here we are 🤷🏽‍♂️

 

[hippononamus]

I inquired about the Bogue and knew something was up immediately. They asked if I was going to send payment several times and tried to pressure me saying they had other buyers (within a span of like 10 minutes) and that they’d send additional photos *after* I paid. Buyers only taking Zelle and Cashapp are super sus as well; usually screams scam. Sorry to all who got taken by them.

 

[Cheetah1919]

Weird, the account had all sorts of good feedback from known reputable basenoters here. It did have 2 negative feedbacks though. I’m wondering did someone somehow merge others pics and feedback onto a new user account?? That sucks. I was looking at these Ensar listings last night and something told me to move on.

 

[bl00drunzcold]

Weird, the account had all sorts of good feedback from known reputable basenoters here. It did have 2 negative feedbacks though. I’m wondering did someone somehow merge others pics and feedback onto a new user account?? That sucks. I was looking at these Ensar listings last night and something told me to move on.

Either they went rogue (which has happened before) or they had their account hijacked. Just stealing pics from other places or ads and scamming.

 

[Cheetah1919]

Either they went rogue (which has happened before) or they had their account hijacked. Just stealing pics from other places or ads and scamming.

Yeah, I hadn’t thought about like that, good point.

 

[Dr B1414]

I also think her account got hijacked. I talked to her about Lutens a couple of weeks ago and she said she wanted to buy one I was selling. She seemed really nice and quite knowledgeable. The person who posted these for sale seems like a different person altogether.

 

[bl00drunzcold]

The AG was just reposted even though it was sold to at least Mak and one other person. Mods need to stop sitting on their hands and do something about the account.

 

[Cheetah1919]

The AG was just reposted even though it was sold to at least Mak and one other person. Mods need to stop sitting on their hands and do something about the account.

Right, it’s still a functional account the last I checked!

 

[bl00drunzcold]

I also think her account got hijacked. I talked to her about Lutens a couple of weeks ago and she said she wanted to buy one I was selling. She seemed really nice and quite knowledgeable. The person who posted these for sale seems like a different person altogether.

Money was sent to a woman’s PayPal account with the first name Joylyne, so it may not be a compromised account.

 

[Scentcrazy]

Anybody tried zafran sultan?...

Homeros attar homeros PP....which is better when applied and settled?

 

[Chaileeto]

Anybody tried zafran sultan?...

Homeros attar homeros PP....which is better when applied and settled?

Homeros attar for sure, I have smelled different homeros pp & edps that were quite different but the attar never dissapoints to my taste. There is much more auriness going on, maybe a bit less on the smokeyside of things

 

[bigbloke]

Anybody tried zafran sultan?...

Homeros attar homeros PP....which is better when applied and settled?

I have tried ZS. Will post some thoughts later

 

[slater93]

finally trying OG iris ghalia and i had my expectations so insanely high i was only expecting i could be disappointed and… i was not disappointed. the purplest composition i have ever smelled, i love it and will seek more of it out, it’s so thick and singular i can’t really pick out any notes so far personally but maybe with time. doesn’t strike me as very animalic but totally okay with that either way, 10/10

conversely i also have been sniffing kyara koko and jungle kinam.. both of which are pretty mediocre in scent and performance. i like JK more but it goes from initial application to skin scent so quickly, and is so quiet compared with even other natural perfumery i can’t imagine paying even 50% of his asking price.

ensar has really made me appreciate some other perfumers more who i felt had poor performance, compared to some of his compositions i was able to more fully appreciate the work of anna zworykina as well as nilmalee by prin which i thought was weak, wearing it side by side with JK shows me how much more poor it could perform and made me realize there os a lot more nuance, depth and staying power to that work.

ensar is tough cause he asks for an arm and a leg but his work really is inconsistent. i wonder why he wouldn’t learn to use some synthetics to boost performance and cut costs.. if he could do booth i assume he could do even better. but i guess he’d rather charge 48392839483929$$$ for a 50 ml. the only person worse than ensar dollar for dollar to performance is rising phoenix. sorry to complain i’m not here just to bash ensar, i do appreciate some of his works but man he makes it hard to want to consistently support his releases.

i was so close to trying eo4 as well, im just not sure i can justify 100$ for a 5 ml decant if it might have weak performance or not be an incredible composition

 

[Xcaliber6685]

finally trying OG iris ghalia and i had my expectations so insanely high i was only expecting i could be disappointed and… i was not disappointed. the purplest composition i have ever smelled, i love it and will seek more of it out, it’s so thick and singular i can’t really pick out any notes so far personally but maybe with time. doesn’t strike me as very animalic but totally okay with that either way, 10/10

conversely i also have been sniffing kyara koko and jungle kinam.. both of which are pretty mediocre in scent and performance. i like JK more but it goes from initial application to skin scent so quickly, and is so quiet compared with even other natural perfumery i can’t imagine paying even 50% of his asking price.

ensar has really made me appreciate some other perfumers more who i felt had poor performance, compared to some of his compositions i was able to more fully appreciate the work of anna zworykina as well as nilmalee by prin which i thought was weak, wearing it side by side with JK shows me how much more poor it could perform and made me realize there os a lot more nuance, depth and staying power to that work.

ensar is tough cause he asks for an arm and a leg but his work really is inconsistent. i wonder why he wouldn’t learn to use some synthetics to boost performance and cut costs.. if he could do booth i assume he could do even better. but i guess he’d rather charge 48392839483929$$$ for a 50 ml. the only person worse than ensar dollar for dollar to performance is rising phoenix. sorry to complain i’m not here just to bash ensar, i do appreciate some of his works but man he makes it hard to want to consistently support his releases.

i was so close to trying eo4 as well, im just not sure i can justify 100$ for a 5 ml decant if it might have weak performance or not be an incredible composition

I have never tried the newer KK and JK so maybe the newer one are better? but the original releases of those two didn't perform for me either.

I don't think EO would ever poke a synthetic aromatic with a ten-foot pole, they'd probably have to call the Hazardous waste disposal team to go incinerate that stuff if it gets anywhere within 500ft near them. It isn't just EO team, I believe the vast majority of EO fans do NOT want any synthetics to get anywhere close to their high-dollar EO collection either. You can approach Ensar directly on FB and see if you could persuade him to experiment with synthetics in new composition, but i'm willing to bet he would most likely tell you to please go buy from someone else if you want synthetic in your perfume! lol

Personally I owned and wear mixed media stuff from both PRIN and ALD, and also have plenty of designers and niches in my collection, hell...I still have 200ml edition of Dior Sauvage EDP, almost the entire line of PDM, some Tom Fart and other synthetic concoctions......but I certainly do not want my EO to have a single drop of synthetic!

 

[haope]

i wonder why he wouldn’t learn to use some synthetics to boost performance and cut costs.. if he could do booth i assume he could do even better.

 

[Xcaliber6685]

Who says he doesnt use synths lol

Do you know something that we don't? LOL from which EO releases? what notes smell like synthetic to you?

I'm curious if there's any proof anywhere to indicate as such? anybody claiming EO uses synthetic must have some sort of proof, right? unless someone is just trying to sabotage the EO brand?

 

[slater93]

I have never tried the newer KK and JK so maybe the newer one are better? but the original releases of those two didn't perform for me either.

I don't think EO would ever poke a synthetic aromatic with a ten-foot pole, they'd probably have to call the Hazardous waste disposal team to go incinerate that stuff if it gets anywhere within 500ft near them. It isn't just EO team, I believe the vast majority of EO fans do NOT want any synthetics to get anywhere close to their high-dollar EO collection either. You can approach Ensar directly on FB and see if you could persuade him to experiment with synthetics in new composition, but i'm willing to bet he would most likely tell you to please go buy from someone else if you want synthetic in your perfume! lol

Personally I owned and wear mixed media stuff from both PRIN and ALD, and also have plenty of designers and niches in my collection, hell...I still have 200ml edition of Dior Sauvage EDP, almost the entire line of PDM, some Tom Fart and other synthetic concoctions......but I certainly do not want my EO to have a single drop of synthetic!

to me elixir is my favorite perfumer because personally i like prin and ald but can find quite a few compositions dominated by singular notes that can feel synthetic to me. i don’t feel this is the case with elixir and he uses those high quality ingredients with more nuance IMO.

i think since EO makes SO many formulations i don’t see why he couldn’t use one with synthetics in small percentages purely to boost performance in his 5.5 release of something haha

but i think you’re right anyhow, i highly doubt he would ever agree to such a thing and likely most EO customers feel the same

i just wish he had more consistency as a perfumer personally in terms of projection, it can be hard to know what to expect with such large variance of performance. most all of them last forever for me in the deep single note dry down if i snort my wrist but that’s not particularly worth the big bucks for me when that happens

 

[haope]

Do you know something that we don't? LOL from which EO releases? what notes smell like synthetic to you?

I'm curious if there's any proof anywhere to indicate as such? anybody claiming EO uses synthetic must have some sort of proof, right? unless someone is just trying to sabotage the EO brand?

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[haope]

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[Sinkinggrade]

for example in EO1 if you send it for gcms youll find use of some synths

Would you share that proof with us? Otherwise, it's better not to continue with the drama.

 

[Scentcrazy]

He may be many things....but the man does not use synthetics.

Think of it logically, hes obviously a man of higher than normal IQ. He knows if he uses synthetics he loses all credibility. Its his business USP really. Im sure he knows theres well trained noses out there than can pick apart his perfumes, and that anyone can GCMS test his perfumes. Plus, I think he personally hates synthetics.

 

[Dorje123]

Something doesnt have to smell synthetic for him to have used them, and there’s nothing wrong with using synths either.

Though thats a different story when you rail against synth usage then go on to do it in your own work…

Considering his past statements and claims what you're saying is defamation and you better have proof!

IME there are naturals that can challenge synthetics on how potent they smell, like patchouli, spikenard, etc.

 

[Xcaliber6685]

to me elixir is my favorite perfumer because personally i like prin and ald but can find quite a few compositions dominated by singular notes that can feel synthetic to me. i don’t feel this is the case with elixir and he uses those high quality ingredients with more nuance IMO.

i think since EO makes SO many formulations i don’t see why he couldn’t use one with synthetics in small percentages purely to boost performance in his 5.5 release of something haha

but i think you’re right anyhow, i highly doubt he would ever agree to such a thing and likely most EO customers feel the same

i just wish he had more consistency as a perfumer personally in terms of projection, it can be hard to know what to expect with such large variance of performance. most all of them last forever for me in the deep single note dry down if i snort my wrist but that’s not particularly worth the big bucks for me when that happens

Understandable, I can certainly see your point, when you pay top dollar for something, you are expecting a certain standard and return for your 'investment' to get what you paid lots of money for. But from an artistic standpoint, I guess having a beastly performance isn't as high on their priority list, certain releases seem to focus more on how it smells rather than how it performs....that's my guess.

There are two ways that I am aware of, that could boost the performance of an all-natural composition without using any synthetic, 1)either you up the concentration, or 2)you stack more non-volatile compounds to beef up both the mid and the base.

 

[Xcaliber6685]

He may be many things....but the man does not use synthetics.

Think of it logically, hes obviously a man of higher than normal IQ. He knows if he uses synthetics he loses all credibility. Its his business USP really. Im sure he knows theres well trained noses out there than can pick apart his perfumes, and that anyone can GCMS test his perfumes. Plus, I think he personally hates synthetics.

^^ 100%

For years....Ensar and his entire team despised and hated synthetic, it's no secret that they voice their displeasure towards it, they also have had allergic reactions even just to be around synthetic aromatics in general household items, or sitting next to someone who wore synthetics and complains how some niche fragrance wore by someone gave him migraine and pissed him off! lol

It isn't hard to spot synthetic, especially when it's being used to boost and extend the performance of a profile, the linear characteristic and persistency of synthetic will always stood out like a sore thumb, usually droning on and on that will most certainly get on someone's nerves. If there's synthetic in some of his beastly performers, many experienced and sensitive noses would have sniffed it out in a hurry without sending it to the test lab.

Something doesnt have to smell synthetic for him to have used them, and there’s nothing wrong with using synths either.

Though thats a different story when you rail against synth usage then go on to do it in your own work…

There are many natural aromatics that have great tenacity and are super dense, they could last for days on scent strips or cloth, tonka bean, patchouli, oakmoss, tobacco, resins, cedarwood, labdanum, and many others have beastly tenacity....stacking enough of those beastly compounds in high enough concentration, they will last for at least 12~24hr. Quality of the compound differ, unless you're using watered-down and bottom-tier ingredients, otherwise there are a lot of highly concentrated, super dense and persistent naturals can and will outperform a lot of synthetic aromatic out there. Natural deer musk, It' is said that just a few drops of natural musk oil added to a piece of cloth can still be discerned and smell the same after 40 years

 

[thesacredsaguaro]

I tried Qahwa Blanca recently and it was pretty poor on performance and mediocre on scent.

Felt like he had some leftover Rumi base laying around and added some burnt coffee and lavender. Not a fan. It just doesn’t smell like his usual heavy hitter and honestly smells way too redundant.

That’s not to say it smells bad. I’ll finish out the tester but it smells better if I layer it with Ambre Sultan or even Ummagumma for that matter.

 

[FlexMentallo]

I have yet to find a house where I love 100% of the offerings - but of the naturals I've smelled, EO has some of the best - if not THE best. The synthetic talk. I dont buy it. EO prides itself on the excellence of its natural materials, and ive never caught a synthetic note in any of their offerings.