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Patou Pour Homme or Pour Un Homme De Caron....

fordc

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What is your take on Patou Pour Homme or Pour Un Homme De Caron? If you had to pick one which would it be and why?
Is there anything today that would compare to these 2 fragrances that would be in the same class?
Something that is just as classy, elegant, refined...something that not everyone and their brother is wearing.
 

Bavard

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For Patou Pour Homme, there are two versions, and I've only tried the earlier version (from 1980). That's a great perfume, but discontinued and hard to find used, except for high prices.

Caron Pour Un Homme is quite different, to me, and not something I've taken to. It comes across to me as one, big single note (lavender).

Alternatives to the original Patou Pour Homme, for my tastes, are Christian Dior Jules, Ralph Lauren Polo, Calvin, Moschino Pour Homme, Chanel Antaeus, and Bijan for Men Cologne.

Alternatives to Caron Pour un Homme, for me, would include Guerlain Mouchoir de Monsieur and D'Orsay Arome 3.
 

hednic

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I own and love both - vintage and more recent Patou Pour Homme and Vintage Pour un Homme de Caron. Of the two, I'd pick the Patou as to me it smells and performs better.
 

Airegin

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Bel Ami Vétiver, Équipage Géranium and Chanel Pour Monsieur EDT are all pure class and worn by very very few people. I would add Declaration d'un Soir but I'm probably the only one who regards it in the same league.
 

L'Aventurier

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I'd go with Caron Pour Un Homme. The newest formulation has maintained its integrity and charm, and they've updated it slightly by removing the civet. There is nothing out there that is as easy to wear, or as perfect in every situation.

Compared to CPUH, the vintage version of Patou pour un Homme is more symphonic and breathtaking, but also has a bigger growl, along with some ingredients that make it decidedly old school. I do love Patou PH though, and consider it among the best compositions of all time. Is it worth hunting down a bottle? Probably not, unless you like to wear old school fragrances on the regular and like that aesthetic (I do).

I haven't tried the newest formulation / re-release of the Patou, but I hear it's completely different from the original.

Other than the great recs by Bavard and Airegin, I'd throw in the following for fragrances that could replace Patou pour un Homme, in terms of complexity, quality of ingredients and class: Derby and Heritage EdT by Guerlain, New York Intense by Nicolai, Or Black by Pascal Morabito and Yohji Pour Homme (vintage).

There is no replacement for Caron pour un Homme: it's so perfectly minimal in its aesthetic - nothing needs to be added or taken away. And the quality of ingredients is top notch. It almost smells like it's made with 100% matières premières, even though it's not.
 

Varanis Ridari

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Wholly unrelated, these two.

Caron Pour Un Homme (1934) is an early dandy lavender musk, with a skeletal near-fougère accord rich in vanilla and tonka. Very top hat and cane, but wears nice dressed down too.

Patou pour Homme (1980) is a very rich spiced semi-oriental fougère with sandalwood and oakmoss playing big roles. Very dense and redolent "brown" smell. Seems more arboreal too.

The Caron is still made and can be had for reasonable prices. The Patou is like Tolkien's "One Ring" of discontinued "unicorn" fragrances, and will set you back well over a grand. It's out of reach unless you're very comfortable financially.

Hope this helps.
 

StylinLA

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I favor Pour un Homme myself.

What is not clear from the original query is which Patou Pour Homme is in question.

The original PPH (vintage) is nearly impossible to find and costs a fortune. It was an overly perfumey male 80s oriental. I had and sold a bottle and thought it was interesting. I can see why it has a following. For a designer scent (albeit a pricier than usual one), it was very potent and rich smelling. It was shown in a Miami Vice montage as Sonny Crockett's cologne.

There was a reissue of Patou Pour Homme which seems to be available still. I haven't researched it in awhile, but recall the reissue didn't set the world on fire. It might be a decent scent but I never tried it. If I recall fans of the original were killing it with faint praise.
 

cacio

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Caron pour un homme. Lavender and vanilla, in perfect balance, simple, elegant, very classic. As others have pointed out, Patou pour un homme is no more.

As for other things in the same class as the Caron, I second Mouchoir de monsieur, though not sure it's around-it seems to come and go.
 
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RedRaider430

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There was a reissue of Patou Pour Homme which seems to be available still. I haven't researched it in awhile, but recall the reissue didn't set the world on fire. It might be a decent scent but I never tried it. If I recall fans of the original were killing it with faint praise.
I remember the sample I got of the reissued PPH was a completely different fragrance. Never understood why they named it PPH. It was horrendous.
 

GWM

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Pour un Homme. It's not even a real question. There is nothing in the market more elegant than Pour un Homme; as elegant sure, but not more elegant.
 

StylinLA

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I remember the sample I got of the reissued PPH was a completely different fragrance. Never understood why they named it PPH. It was horrendous.
Yeah, I recall some similar revulsion when it first launched. I was never really tempted.

I thought the original was interesting. Always reminded me of a rich, old guy scent, though I guess that wasn't the typical buyer in the 80s. Very man perfume-ish.
 

GWM

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As for the vintage Patou I've heard it's a decent fragrance, but all hype.
 

Shahbaz_2009

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Both are great fougère but i personally prefer Caron Pour Un Homme,as it was ahead of it's time.

Best Regards.
 

StylinLA

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What is your take on Patou Pour Homme or Pour Un Homme De Caron? If you had to pick one which would it be and why?
Is there anything today that would compare to these 2 fragrances that would be in the same class?
Something that is just as classy, elegant, refined...something that not everyone and their brother is wearing.
fordc, don't know a lot about you yet. I know you're kind of new to frags and looking to sample.

Not sure how you came to ask about these two particular scents. Caron Pour un Homme is well regarded here. It is reasonably priced, but if you're young, it may freak you out. It came out in 1934, it is old school but still well regarded by many here. I bring this up because another recent new member pounced on it and was sort of shocked by it. Basenotes is a mix of fragrance fans, many of who are purists, many like vintage scents.
 

Hazzle77

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For Patou Pour Homme, there are two versions, and I've only tried the earlier version (from 1980). That's a great perfume, but discontinued and hard to find used, except for high prices.

Caron Pour Un Homme is quite different, to me, and not something I've taken to. It comes across to me as one, big single note (lavender).

Alternatives to the original Patou Pour Homme, for my tastes, are Christian Dior Jules, Ralph Lauren Polo, Calvin, Moschino Pour Homme, Chanel Antaeus, and Bijan for Men Cologne.

Alternatives to Caron Pour un Homme, for me, would include Guerlain Mouchoir de Monsieur and D'Orsay Arome 3.
I'm with you on the Caron. My daughter has a lavender bag in her room to help her sleep and it just smells of that to me.
 

PStoller

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For me, it’s vintage Patou PH hands down. I like lavender, but I prefer it with little to no vanilla, which makes Caron PuH unworkable for me.

That said, there are any number of elegant fragrances that don’t have the Caron’s overbearing vanilla or the Patou’s ludicrous price tag. For something current, perhaps Parfums de Nicolaï’s New York Intense.
 

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