New release Roja Parfums Elysium Eau Intense

[Scentologist]

This is my personal preference and logic, a flanker should retain some portion of the DNA to make it recognizable that it's indeed a hybrid of the original, but with another vision or application. For instance, Eternity Parfum, albeit smells good, in no way smells like the original green musky goodness that it is. The juice is brown and in now way can I detect that it's a flanker of the original. A flanker doesn't mean the original is improved upon, but it can be. It all depends on the goal. However, in my mind to even be called a flanker under an existing fragrance should retain the DNA at least. Otherwise it would make better sense to name it something else. My theory is that with Eternity Parfum, it's not good enough to come out on it's own because it wouldn't survive the market, so instead they made it a flanker in which they'll likely discontinue at some point as is tradition unless it is wildly successful. After all that, there is no right or wrong and a fragrance company can launch a completely different fragrance under a flanker if they want. I've only outlined my thoughts but at the end of the day, its all about whether you like it or not and the name, etc. is inconsequential.

 

[ChuckW]

Looking forward to trying this one. I have this and the new LV Pacific Chill on the "to try" list for our upcoming Hawaii trip. Hopefully they'll both be in shops by June.

 

[gerbick]

Just got my bottle this morning. Usual caveat exists - my nose is still what I'd call amateur and take my description with a grain of salt.

This runs WAAAAAAY different than Elysium Parfum and Parfum Cologne from the start. This starts off crisp. Rhubarb tartness followed by lavender, citrus... and masculine florals. There's a in/out green apple note that reminds me a bit of Greenley/Sutton but it's not truly pronounced, but it in a good place - I'm enjoying this part the most.

This is the more adult, first cousin of Elysium. Almost smells like what if Brioni would have done if they used the same materials - I'm also a huge fan of Brioni Eau de Parfum Homme with its violet leaf note. The lavender in Elysium Eau Intense is ever present like the Brioni's violet leaf, but never overwhelms. It's a clean lavender that provides a good base.

Overall, I like this. A lot. But it will not compare well to Elysium prior to it in the earlier stages. Basic structure is similar - fruits up front, herbs, woody mid to base, some surprises here and there (I picked up juniper around 3 hours), but then it's the Parfum Cologne base after that.

 

[slpfrsly]

Your barking up the wrong tree here, the only joke is your comments.

Make absolutely no sense at all.

Especially your last line -

PDM and Roja cannot even be used in the same sentence, its as good as comparing apples and potatoes.

And yes before you comment ( PDM are the spuds in that reference)

Considering both PdM and Roja seem to do basically the same thing (one rips off/tweaks/improves/strengthens 90s and 00s designers, the other does the same for 70s and 80s designers), I'm not sure I see the distinction between the two.

They seem like similar businesses: they've achieved popularity at a similar time, selling to broadly speaking the same type of customer, sold in the same locations etc.

 

[AndyL]

Just got my bottle this morning. Usual caveat exists - my nose is still what I'd call amateur and take my description with a grain of salt.

This runs WAAAAAAY different than Elysium Parfum and Parfum Cologne from the start. This starts off crisp. Rhubarb tartness followed by lavender, citrus... and masculine florals. There's a in/out green apple note that reminds me a bit of Greenley/Sutton but it's not truly pronounced, but it in a good place - I'm enjoying this part the most.

This is the more adult, first cousin of Elysium. Almost smells like what if Brioni would have done if they used the same materials - I'm also a huge fan of Brioni Eau de Parfum Homme with its violet leaf note. The lavender in Elysium Eau Intense is ever present like the Brioni's violet leaf, but never overwhelms. It's a clean lavender that provides a good base.

Overall, I like this. A lot. But it will not compare well to Elysium prior to it in the earlier stages. Basic structure is similar - fruits up front, herbs, woody mid to base, some surprises here and there (I picked up juniper around 3 hours), but then it's the Parfum Cologne base after that.

Thank you for sharing your time with this perfume! I own the Elysium Parfum Cologne and I think there are some perfumes I wouldn't want another of. This would be one of them. One Elysium is enough for me, it would seem too redundant for the price tag.

 

[wilfred]

Just got my bottle this morning. Usual caveat exists - my nose is still what I'd call amateur and take my description with a grain of salt.

This runs WAAAAAAY different than Elysium Parfum and Parfum Cologne from the start. This starts off crisp. Rhubarb tartness followed by lavender, citrus... and masculine florals. There's a in/out green apple note that reminds me a bit of Greenley/Sutton but it's not truly pronounced, but it in a good place - I'm enjoying this part the most.

This is the more adult, first cousin of Elysium. Almost smells like what if Brioni would have done if they used the same materials - I'm also a huge fan of Brioni Eau de Parfum Homme with its violet leaf note. The lavender in Elysium Eau Intense is ever present like the Brioni's violet leaf, but never overwhelms. It's a clean lavender that provides a good base.

Overall, I like this. A lot. But it will not compare well to Elysium prior to it in the earlier stages. Basic structure is similar - fruits up front, herbs, woody mid to base, some surprises here and there (I picked up juniper around 3 hours), but then it's the Parfum Cologne base after that.

thanks for the detailed impression! got a decant en-route so should be able to chime in shortly.

 

[ToughCool]

Looking forward to trying this one. I have this and the new LV Pacific Chill on the "to try" list for our upcoming Hawaii trip. Hopefully they'll both be in shops by June.

Hope you enjoy the trip! What island? I need to buy for our Summer trip too!

 

[ChuckW]

Hope you enjoy the trip! What island? I need to buy for our Summer trip too!

We're staying in the heart of Waikiki. If you know me, I am originally from a rural town, and I like to vacation where there is action, shopping, restaurants, tourist traps, the whole nine yards! I am a history buff as well, so all the WWII sites are of great interest. If I went to a secluded, quiet resort I'd go nuts.

Where are y'all headed?

 

[ToughCool]

We're staying in the heart of Waikiki. If you know me, I am originally from a rural town, and I like to vacation where there is action, shopping, restaurants, tourist traps, the whole nine yards! I am a history buff as well, so all the WWII sites are of great interest. If I went to a secluded, quiet resort I'd go nuts.

Where are y'all headed?

I get it! Honestly I've been over there 6-7 times...Maui, Kauai, Big Island and Oahu..love Maui but the last 3 have been to Oahu...we did Waikiki, then North Shore and this last December a resort in the Southwest. I really enjoy Waikiki. We end every trip there and I love the restaurant scene and the sunsets right there. We love rooftop dinner at Tommy Bahamas. Same on history....though when we went to Pear Harbor it was too choppy to get to the USS Arizona platform. Hope y'all have a blast!

We are headed on a Mediterranean cruise out of Rome. Me and the kids first cruise but a nice boat. We are spending a few days in Rome and then Portofino, Corsica, La Spezia, Cannes, Mallorca and end in Barcelona! Hopefully it goes well. The 3 two week trips to Europe with the kids had me driving all over and they don't like the navigation fights...haha.

 

[RPLens]

Your barking up the wrong tree here, the only joke is your comments.

Make absolutely no sense at all.

Especially your last line -

PDM and Roja cannot even be used in the same sentence, its as good as comparing apples and potatoes.

And yes before you comment ( PDM are the spuds in that reference)

Isn't it funny how gerbick just said that Elysium Eau Intense reminds him of PDM Greenley?
LMAO
So I guess Roja is not only copying multiple designer concepts, he is also copying "the spuds".
You can't make this up.... it's horrendous and hilarious at the same time.

 

[Melbourne21]

Isn't it funny how gerbick just said that Elysium Eau Intense reminds him of PDM Greenley?
LMAO
So I guess Roja is not only copying multiple designer concepts, he is also copying "the spuds".
You can't make this up.... it's horrendous and hilarious at the same time.

🤣 Anything with an apple note or accord will smell like Greenley.

 

[Dorje123]

it's horrendous and hilarious at the same time.

Like your posts.

 

[wilfred]

a scent like PdM Greenley doesn't even belong in the dicussion with Elysium. absolute joke of a 'niche' fragrance I have £20 designers which smell better.

 

[gerbick]

Isn't it funny how gerbick just said that Elysium Eau Intense reminds him of PDM Greenley?
LMAO
So I guess Roja is not only copying multiple designer concepts, he is also copying "the spuds".
You can't make this up.... it's horrendous and hilarious at the same time.

Mind you, I fully offered a warning that I truly consider my own nose to be an amateur, at best.

Prior apple notes like in Boss Bottled, Halston Catalyst for Men, Kilian Apple Brandy, DKNY Be Delicious, or even Brooksfield Man, all were less crisp but great apple notes. This isn't those notes though. This is a crisp, green apple and that part did remind me of Greenley; however, I wouldn't say it's the same. In fact, it is not even a main player. The rhubarb isn't like Marc-Antoine Barrois Encelade's either. It's juicy and tart, not muddled.

Anyway, as far as Roja and PDM go, they both seem to be caught up with the current trends. Somewhat retro, somewhat new aroma chemical/ingredients, sometimes in-between. And if I'm reading between the lines, as polarizing as Creed and Bond No. 9 once were here at BN. Man... those arguments were epic.

I'm just a fan of whatever I like and hope that all here are fans of whatever they like. I learn from you all here and appreciate the varying differences we all have.

But again, feel free to take my opinion and description with a grain of salt. I had no intent to start or fuel an argument.

 

[Vinrambo09]

IF they launch an 100 ml version of the parfum, I would buy it in a flash, its stunning!

 

[wilfred]

IF they launch an 100 ml version of the parfum, I would buy it in a flash, its stunning!

they already did and it was discontinued leading up to the launch of this one.

it was called Parfum Special Edition and came in the PC bottle but with a black cap.

 

[gerbick]

they already did and it was discontinued leading up to the launch of this one.

it was called Parfum Special Edition and came in the PC bottle but with a black cap.

So that’s what that was? I saw it and passed on it thinking Roja Dove was having a joke at my expense and it was just the cap that was different.

 

[wilfred]

So that’s what that was? I saw it and passed on it thinking Roja Dove was having a joke at my expense and it was just the cap that was different.

i don't think it was readily available outside Europe but it was available direct and had some big discounts when they cleared them recently. i already copped some tester bottles a long time back as the price was way lower per ml than the 50ml.

 

[RPLens]

But again, feel free to take my opinion and description with a grain of salt. I had no intent to start or fuel an argument.

I am 100% convinced that you are spot on with the comparison with Greenley.
The original Elysium is also partly derived from Aventus, Bleu de Chanel, and maybe some others too.
It would only be logic that Roja is sniffing around in the collection of a top brand like Parfums de Marly.

Over the last 10 years, the price of niche perfumes has been rising tremendously.
I see the original Elysium as a market test: "Can we get away with selling $30 juice for an insane markup?".
At a certain point, the consumer needs to draw a line.
And quite frankly, something like PdM Sedley is also very thin and cheap smelling for the price.
There was so much critique that PdM actually told their clientele that Sedley would get reformulated and boosted in performance.

You can't let these money-hungry fragrance juggernauts get away with such a market test.
Boycott the product and let your voice be heard.
I'm not going to pay $500 for thin, cheap, low-quality trash.

 

[Dorje123]

...a top brand like Parfums de Marly.