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My Current list of beginning ingredients

Apr 3, 2023
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My Current list of beginning fragrances​


Here is a list of scents id like to narrow down to about 15. In bold are things ive seen recommended that i will keep. I like green fresh funky scents and wood scents but just want to play around! I'm serious but letting creativity guide me. From what I've read on forums its not smart to start with a bunch of unique scents your not going to get a lot of use out of. If anyone has any help on what to narrow down, let me know!
Top:
  1. Aldehyde C-18 COCONUT
  2. Alpha Pinene (Natural)
  3. Alpha Terpinene** - (Citrus-y, woody, terpy with camphoraceous and thymol notes)
  4. linalool - (A good general builder - floral - appears in all types of compositions from floral to citrus.)
  5. methyl benzoate - (Bitter nutty, or cherry pit flavored, chemical, lightly floral with nuances of wintergreen.)
  6. Bergamot
  7. Beta Pinene (Natural) ** - (Woody, Piney, Minty)
  8. Clementine - Italy** EO
  9. Lemon - California**
  10. Methyl Hexyl Ketone *- (Earthy weedy woody herbal.)
  11. Passion Fruit Base (Firmenich)
Middle:
  1. linalyl acetate - (Sweet floral fruity odor, bergamot, pear.)
  2. eugenol - Clove sharp spicy sweet.
  3. Barley Roasted Extract 40% ETH (Biolandes) **
  4. Basil Holy (Tulsi) - India
  5. Birch Leaf Givco 166/2 - (Green, Herbaceous, Vegetable. )
  6. Geraniol (95) - (Rose and geranium)
  7. Ginger (CO2 Extract) **
  8. Ginger Fresh Madagascar **
  9. Isoraldeine® 95 (Givaudan) **
  10. Juniper Berry** EO
  11. Lavender Aldehyde FCC (Bedoukian)
  12. Rhubafuran (Givaudan)
  13. Tomato Leaf - Key Accord (Fragrance)**
  14. Violettyne MIP (Firmenich)
Base:
1.Arabian Sandalwood Fragrance Oil**
2. Animalis Hypo 27 TEC (Synarome) ** - (Modern agrestic/herbaceous animalic, civet-type blend with nuances of woody balsamic and costus facets. )
3.Patchouli
4.Butyl Butyro Lactate
(Buttery creamy milk dairy cheese.)
4. Dry Grass Essence** - (Dry Grass, Green, Hay, Sweet, Herbal)
5. Gamma Octalactone (Natural) - (Sweet, creamy, dairy, fatty, oily, coconut.)
6. Iso Eugenol - (Clove, sweet, woody, spicy.)
7. Metallic Saffron Essence (Fragrance) - (Bergamot, Pink pepper, Tuberose, Beer Accord, Saffron, Vinyl, Metallic, Woods, Vanilla)
8. Oakmoss Absolute 10% **
??
Dihydrocoumarin - 10% in PG
 

pkiler

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Lets start with that your first line in your topnotes, Aldehyde C-18, is neither an aldehyde or a topnote.
It's proper name is gamma-nonalactone.
What is the purpose for the double ** ?
Next, this list of raw materials isn't that long, and since you've expressed interest in, and spent time to investigate them, buy them.
But you may not use all of them for your target fragrance, but you are, at this point, simply learning about raw materials, to begin with, anyway.
You will need to add some greenies to accomplish your freshness goals.
Cis-hexenyl acetate, Cis-3-hexenol, Triplal, Dihydromyrcenol, and Helional.
You also need Iso E super, a good lavender EO.
There are only a couple of items in your list that I might think not to buy right away, the Barley and the lavender aldehyde.
 

steventeddy

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What is the purpose for the double ** ?

I'm pretty sure the double star is just from them copy/pasting the item names from Perfumer's Apprentice.

Base:​

1.Arabian Sandalwood Fragrance Oil**
With respect to sandalwood, it might be a better idea to get a base/the real thing rather than a fragrance oil. If you plan to work in the fine fragrance realm, i.e. fragrances diluted in ethanol, I don't think that fragrance oil is appropriate. From Perfumer's Apprentice's website:
Premium Grade fragrance oils are used to add fragrance to melt and pour soap bases, cold processed soaps, all candle waxes but especially soy wax, unscented incense sticks and cones, bath products and sea salts.

Synthetic alternatives at Perfumer's Apprentice are their own "key accord" (for which they provide the formulation!), or sandalwood Givco. Perfumer Supply House also has synthetic bases: Pell Wall's sandalwood blend, Sandalwood Oliffac (IFF's base), Dreamwood (Firmenich), Mysore Wood (Firmenich), Mysoral (Synarome).
 

PeeWee678

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I agree with Steven; don't buy fragrance oils for creating perfumes.
  • Dreamwood is a nice base but enhancing it with a tiny bit of Javanol or a bit of Polysantol is recommended.
    Other options are (for example) Santaliff, Bacdanol, Ebanol and/or Bacdanol but a combination of several AC's (and/or a base) works best.
  • Do not buy Mysore wood unless you want a sandal base that's overly lactonic with pronounced cedar notes. It's just not representative of sandal wood.
I'm not familar with the other bases mentioned.
 
Apr 3, 2023
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Thank you so much for the help. I'm taking out the fragrance oils! I didn't understand the difference and just went with something cheap. I will look into a sandalwood base that is better for making perfume.
I'm pretty sure the double star is just from them copy/pasting the item names from Perfumer's Apprentice.

With respect to sandalwood, it might be a better idea to get a base/the real thing rather than a fragrance oil. If you plan to work in the fine fragrance realm, i.e. fragrances diluted in ethanol, I don't think that fragrance oil is appropriate. From Perfumer's Apprentice's website:


Synthetic alternatives at Perfumer's Apprentice are their own "key accord" (for which they provide the formulation!), or sandalwood Givco. Perfumer Supply House also has synthetic bases: Pell Wall's sandalwood blend, Sandalwood Oliffac (IFF's base), Dreamwood (Firmenich), Mysore Wood (Firmenich), Mysoral (Synarome).
 
Apr 3, 2023
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I agree with Steven; don't buy fragrance oils for creating perfumes.
  • Dreamwood is a nice base but enhancing it with a tiny bit of Javanol or a bit of Polysantol is recommended.
    Other options are (for example) Santaliff, Bacdanol, Ebanol and/or Bacdanol but a combination of several AC's (and/or a base) works best.
  • Do not buy Mysore wood unless you want a sandal base that's overly lactonic with pronounced cedar notes. It's just not representative of sandal wood.
I'm not familar with the other bases mentioned.
Thank you! Your descrition of mysore wood actually sounds lovely as I love cedar and milky scents, I think I will look into it! (Not as a sandal wood but as something else)
 
Apr 3, 2023
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Lets start with that your first line in your topnotes, Aldehyde C-18, is neither an aldehyde or a topnote.
It's proper name is gamma-nonalactone.
What is the purpose for the double ** ?
Next, this list of raw materials isn't that long, and since you've expressed interest in, and spent time to investigate them, buy them.
But you may not use all of them for your target fragrance, but you are, at this point, simply learning about raw materials, to begin with, anyway.
You will need to add some greenies to accomplish your freshness goals.
Cis-hexenyl acetate, Cis-3-hexenol, Triplal, Dihydromyrcenol, and Helional.
You also need Iso E super, a good lavender EO.
There are only a couple of items in your list that I might think not to buy right away, the Barley and the lavender aldehyde.
Thank you for the fresh ingredients! I have added them to the cart. I love roasted barley tea and that type of smell so thats why I picked that. I may leave out the lavender I just put it in because it seemed like an essential. I dont know about buying that much $$ worth of material at once, thats why I want help narrowing things down. I've seen other posts saying the peoples original lists have alot of niche scents they may only use on occasion so I am trying to make sure I dont buy too many of those.
 

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