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M V2Q by Puredistance Review

thebeck

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INTERVIEW WITH ANTOINE LIE

about the creation of M V2Q



In December of 2021 Puredistance got a notification from Roja

Parfums that they would no longer supply Puredistance M

perfume oil to Puredistance due to the changes in IFRA regulations

and the resulting need for reformulation. Therefore, we

had to discontinue Puredistance M. We decided we would not

approach another perfumer asking him to copy ‘M’. Puredistance

is about originality, not about imitation.

We invented a new name, M V2Q, and asked perfumer

Antoine Lie if he could create a new version in the same vein as

the old M, but more contemporary and emotionally sensitive.

Where the old M was inspired by the raw world of Sean Connery,

the new M V2Q would be placed in today’s world of the latest

James Bond: Daniel Craig and his future successor.

Antoine Lie gladly accepted the challenge and started to work on

M V2Q. We provided him with artwork that communicates the

essence of the new perfume and explained the new name M V2Q

to him: V2 stands for ‘version 2’ of M; Q supplies James Bond with

new techniques and innovations; and finally, ‘VanQuish ‘is the

name of an Aston Martin being used in a James Bond movie.

We found one of the first samples Antoine sent us very promising

and four months and five modifications later we were convinced

the new M V2Q will not only please many of the old ‘M addicts’,

but as well appeal to many new perfume lovers. In the interview

below you will get some interesting insights in the process of the

creation of M V2Q.



In which ways could you personally relate to the brief for M V2Q?


James Bond, one of the most famous movie characters, was the

original inspiration of M and the little boy I have once been, grew

up with the image of this uncorruptible and invincible character.

This is an almost mythical character that influenced more than

one generation. Even my father was blown away by the first

Bond movie, ‘Dr No’. M QV2 is more than a project, it reactivates

my childhood memories.



When you started creating M V2Q, what were the first steps?


The initial question I asked myself during this project was, how

do I twist a very powerful and classical alpha male fragrance into

a more sensitive, emotional, and contemporary but still very

masculine signature, keeping its boldness.

In which ways you think M V2Q still partly refers to the old M?

M V2Q has a forceful and extravagant olfactive structure - filling

up the space, imposing its presence like M - even if the message

is different.

In what way you think M V2Q is different from the old M?

M relates to an extreme masculinity icon from the 70’s and 80’s,

while M V2Q is adding more complexity and sensitivity, adding

more existential truth to a very masculine olfactive statement.

Can you tell us a bit more about the ingredients you have used?

Actually, M and M V2Q have a lot of ingredients in common but

their perception is altered by the way they have been put together.

For example, patchouli has been reduced drastically and

combined with derivatives of cedarwood and sandalwood to

create a more modern woody structure. The floral aspect is very

important as well with ingredients like Jasmin Sambac and

orange blossom. Then there are some exclusive ingredients

selected by Atelier Français des Matières I have used; like a

special quality of lavender, pink peppercorn, cinnamon and pine tar.



How about the costs of the ingredients being used in M V2Q and

other Puredistance perfumes
.

Jan Ewoud is always giving me ‘carte blanche’ on the creation

and the cost is never a concern because the fragrance itself is the

most important element for him, allowing me the best selection

in terms of ingredients. Puredistance is providing me what I need

to give my best: highly valuable and daring fragrances.



Would you personally wear M V2Q? And if so, on what occasions?


When I am on a special mission of course...



Did you have any fears before taking on this special project? (Since

Puredistance customers will inevitably compare your creation

with the old M that was reviewed very favourably by many.)


Not at all. I was in fact very motivated and excited to be

challenged to reinterpret a very successful perfume of the

Puredistance collection. When I left the standardized structure

of the industrial perfumery, it was to work on projects like this,

where you take full responsibility for what you create.



How does it feel for a French Master Perfumer to be inspired

by a British legend?


James Bond has been saving the entire planet on so many occasions

that I do not see him as a London spy working exclusively

for his country: he is a global hero. So, to me, the inspiration was

very obviously international and not only British.



NOTES of M V2Q – 28% CONCENTRATION

T: Orange blossom (Morocco),

Pink peppercorn (Réunion),
When M came out in 2010 I fell in love with it. It became my near signature scent for 8 years. I even proclaimed myself the number one fan. I still keep a bottle in my wardrobe at all times. Even though, like all perfumistas,’ have moved on to many more discoveries.


My thoughts:
Now M V2Q has replaced the original with a more modern presentation.

When you first spray M V2Q it goes on strong (which is a plus for me) It only takes a few minutes to fill the room. So be careful and start with one spray, maybe two max. Oh good, a bottle will last a long time.

As you read in the interview above Antoine Lie’s job was to take M from a James Bond, Sean Connery old school vibe to a more modern Daniel Craig vibe. I think Antoine did a great job. Some perfumers find it challenging to work with Puredistance. They give the nose a lot of freedom to create, but you must have the ability to interpret. As is the case here, Antoine was suppose to create a new version of M, but make it more contemporary and emotionally sensitive. When the nose brings something to the table for Puredistance to smell, you won’t get feedback like add more or subtract these notes. Rather you’ll hear make it more contemporary, or add some emotion, it needs more life. The nose is left with the job of making that happen with his or her creativity.

M V2Q remains very masculine, bold, strong and feels elegant at the same time. The patchouli is reduced by quite a bit, which helps reduce the old school vibe out and make it more modern. The introduction of orange blossom and jasmine Sambac really help soften the bold larger than life opening. For me the pink peppercorn hangs on for the life of the scent. I find that interesting because most scents that use pink peppercorn, I rarely smell it past the opening. Thirty minutes in and the cedarwood kicks in and tonka mixes in to ever so slightly sweeten the cedarwood, so the cedarwood doesn’t get too heavy and take over all the wonderful nuances. As the day progresses my appreciation for the scent grew. It feels very comfortable, like being around an old friend. There is zero olfactory fatigue. You will smell yourself all day with only two sprays.

I don’t think there needs to be a comparison conversation on old vs new here. M V2Q stands on it’s own as being new and unique. The only things both have in common are being bold, strong and masculine.

I very much enjoyed the day with M V2Q. For me the longevity is 12 hours plus. You will smell M V2Q on your clothes the next day. I always like that when a scent has that ability. When I grew up in the 50’s and 60’s your clothes always smelled great the next. That’s when great ingredients were common and cheap.

Okay, so is M V2Q good enough to warrant my hard earned money to buy a bottle.

YOU’RE DAMN RIGHT. I will definitely be purchasing a bottle in September when it launches.

In my opinion M V2Q is a more than worthy successor to M.

Thank you Antoine Lie for having the skill and creativity to create this wonderful new M V2Q for Puredistance.
 
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slpfrsly

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What does "more emotionally sensitive" mean? More feminine? More contemporary? More cynical?

Given the original M is basically a full bore clone of Bel Ami, is this a clone as well? And if so, of what? How similar is it to the original M? If it's unique, then presumably it bears no similarity to the original?
 

dougczar

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Thanks for sharing this. I liked M, but thought there was just too much clove. I have a feeling (hope) this one will be a bit more my style.
 

thebeck

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What does "more emotionally sensitive" mean? More feminine? More contemporary? More cynical?

Given the original M is basically a full bore clone of Bel Ami, is this a clone as well? And if so, of what? How similar is it to the original M? If it's unique, then presumably it bears no similarity to the original?
Correct, bears no similarity to the original beyond bold, strong and long lasting.
If it's a clone of something, I haven't smelled it.
Exactly, what does "more emotionally sensitive" mean? Antoine Lie had to figure it out. A major challenge since there would be many interpretations to pick from.
 

slpfrsly

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Correct, bears no similarity to the original beyond bold, strong and long lasting.
If it's a clone of something, I haven't smelled it.
That's interesting. Do you have any point of reference for it? Orange blossom and pink pepper suggests it's quite a light/clean scent, the kind of thing you might get from Dior?
 

thebeck

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That's interesting. Do you have any point of reference for it? Orange blossom and pink pepper suggests it's quite a light/clean scent, the kind of thing you might get from Dior?
The orange blossom and pink peppercorn do add a clean aspect, but the pine tar and patchouli keep it from getting light.
They just help the the scent from being too heavy.
 

Ruffienne

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It's sweet. Really sweet. Especially on the opening notes - someone said I smelled of sawdust and sugar.
It's also quite powerful, especially for the first hour or two - although the fact that it is floral and reasonably clean saves it from being 'too much'.
It is certainly modern - to me it smells very much like any of the sugar-bombs of the past few years, but with more complex middle notes and a decent dose of ambroxan to move it from unisex to the more male side of the ledger.
It also has good sillage and longevity, so if you like it you will get a lot of wear from a couple of sprays.
And they are correct about the zero olfactory fatigue part - I could smell it on myself, in clear definition, for a solid 20 hours.

TL;DR - it's modern, sweet, and strong, but I did not like it very much.
 

StylinLA

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It's sweet. Really sweet. Especially on the opening notes - someone said I smelled of sawdust and sugar.
It's also quite powerful, especially for the first hour or two - although the fact that it is floral and reasonably clean saves it from being 'too much'.
It is certainly modern - to me it smells very much like any of the sugar-bombs of the past few years, but with more complex middle notes and a decent dose of ambroxan to move it from unisex to the more male side of the ledger.
It also has good sillage and longevity, so if you like it you will get a lot of wear from a couple of sprays.
And they are correct about the zero olfactory fatigue part - I could smell it on myself, in clear definition, for a solid 20 hours.

TL;DR - it's modern, sweet, and strong, but I did not like it very much.
Thanks for some actual notes on sniffing. Really sweet sounds like a big departure from M.
 

SolaceKosmoskrator

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Huh. Well there is always vintage bel ami, still often to be found for less than a new puredistance.

Old Bel Ami has this wild synthetic note running right through the middle of it, like a stubborn patch of weird electronic discoloration on an old TV. M smoothed that out, which gave it an almost gourmand, christmas cookie vibe. Totally deep and rich and lovely... but hyper masculine? I dunno. I get more james bond from pour monsieur or even the OG gucci pour homme. hell everything Guy Robert ever made is more james bond, even caleche. helps to remember that sean connery himself was probably wearing jicky when he beat the shit out of johnny stompanato

My wife loves to layer M with Bois de Isles, which is pretty fantastic. I am glad to have M but it hasn't stopped me from loading up on old Bel Ami.

It's interesting that Roja pulled the plug, as I've always heard his Fetish is his *other* Bel Ami clone, but have never smelled.
 

Mak-7

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If ambroxan is in the mix, then i am out. Goddammit why do they need to put this shit in everything?
 

StylinLA

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If ambroxan is in the mix, then i am out. Goddammit why do they need to put this shit in everything?
Because it seems to be the "note du jour" right now. Probably mostly thanks to Sauvage.
 

CookBot

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If ambroxan is in the mix, then i am out. Goddammit why do they need to put this shit in everything?

I used to think I felt that way about ambroxan, until I smelled it in Vaninger by Oliver & Co. Now I think that in the right quantities and with the right companions, it can be brilliant.

For me the deal breakers on this new "M" would be orange blossom, jasmine and pink pepper. Blerrggh. What about all that leather that was in the old "M"?
 

Mak-7

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I used to think I felt that way about ambroxan, until I smelled it in Vaninger by Oliver & Co. Now I think that in the right quantities and with the right companions, it can be brilliant.

For me the deal breakers on this new "M" would be orange blossom, jasmine and pink pepper. Blerrggh. What about all that leather that was in the old "M"?
Ambroxan to me is very loud and abrasive, and i have yet to find a fragrance where it would work. However there are milder forms of ambroxan that i can tolerate, and these are the ones that i dont mind if mixed in well.
Another issue with ambroxan, as in my experience with Promise by Malle, 1 spray to the body, and for 45 mins that i wore t-shirt over the spot - i had to wash that t shirt 6 times in warm water to get rid of ambroxan.

I would agree with pink pepper, but jasmine and orange blossom will probably be in trace amounts, to contrast the heavier molecules. Jasmin and oranges were present in original formula, and i can smell something white and floral only at the start if i concentrate really really hard
 

Martin__

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I've got a backup bottle of old Puredistance M and a large decant of MV2Q.

The new one is a disaster to me. It's a jasmine, slightly indolic concoction that should be released under a totally different name rather than "being a flanker". It seems that Antoine Lie tried to imitate leather accords with something amber-ish and flower-ish. And I also feel an inspiration, well - even a huge inspiration taken from Lie's other perfume under Puredistance brand - Black that is, the difference is Black is much more spicy, I mean mainly pink and black pepper spice, new MV2Q doesn't have a lot of that.

Unfortunately for me, both longevity and sillage are great.
 

ThVH

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Ambroxan to me is very loud and abrasive, and i have yet to find a fragrance where it would work. However there are milder forms of ambroxan that i can tolerate, and these are the ones that i dont mind if mixed in well.
Another issue with ambroxan, as in my experience with Promise by Malle, 1 spray to the body, and for 45 mins that i wore t-shirt over the spot - i had to wash that t shirt 6 times in warm water to get rid of ambroxan.

I would agree with pink pepper, but jasmine and orange blossom will probably be in trace amounts, to contrast the heavier molecules. Jasmin and oranges were present in original formula, and i can smell something white and floral only at the start if i concentrate really really hard
Just a little tip as I read this — next time, try to soak the spot in alcohol before washing. Alcohol has helped me a lot in removing fragrances, be it on clothes or skin. ymmv of course
 

Mak-7

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Just a little tip as I read this — next time, try to soak the spot in alcohol before washing. Alcohol has helped me a lot in removing fragrances, be it on clothes or skin. ymmv of course
Thank you. Ill keep it in mind for the future. Usually i dont have a problem since most of my frags have more natural base, thus there is no issue with scent lingering.
At the same time - alcohol can dissolve colors, did you ever have issue with that?
 
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