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How to make perfume with fragrance oil?

David Ruskin

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See this compund this is from givaudan
How do you know it is from Givaudan? Just because there is a Givaudan style label on the can does not mean that the content is from Givaudan.

Everyone who has answered you has replied in the same way. Clearly, the original fragrances you have smelled ( as you say you compared them) and the copies, sorry the inspired versions, you bought are not the same. The oils you bought are clearly not what the supplier said they were. For the third time, you have been duped. You have been ripped off. Your supplier scammed you. I don't think I can put it any more strongly.

I've had enough of banging my head against this particular wall. Whether or not you like the truth, this is the situation you are in. If you want your money back, I suggest you talk to your supplier, although I doubt if he will be friendly.
 

shihanpk

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How do you know it is from Givaudan? Just because there is a Givaudan style label on the can does not mean that the content is from Givaudan.

Everyone who has answered you has replied in the same way. Clearly, the original fragrances you have smelled ( as you say you compared them) and the copies, sorry the inspired versions, you bought are not the same. The oils you bought are clearly not what the supplier said they were. For the third time, you have been duped. You have been ripped off. Your supplier scammed you. I don't think I can put it any more strongly.

I've had enough of banging my head against this particular wall. Whether or not you like the truth, this is the situation you are in. If you want your money back, I suggest you talk to your supplier, although I doubt if he will be friendly.
When i searched online brands like luzi,givaudan etc are supplying fragrance compund
I also emailed luzi to check whether this fragrance compunds fake or real
They also said that they are supplying fragrance compounds
 

AdamE

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When i searched online brands like luzi,givaudan etc are supplying fragrance compund
I also emailed luzi to check whether this fragrance compunds fake or real
They also said that they are supplying fragrance compounds
Did you ask Luzi why their fragrance compounds don’t work?
 

David Ruskin

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Givaudan and Luzi do indeed supply fragrance compounds; they are called perfumes. Givaudan is one of the biggest fragrance houses in the world, creating, compounding and selling tonnes of fragrances every year. Luzi, whilst much smaller (much, much smaller) is recognised within the industry.

And?
 

jsweet

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When i searched online brands like luzi,givaudan etc are supplying fragrance compund
I also emailed luzi to check whether this fragrance compunds fake or real
They also said that they are supplying fragrance compounds
So you bought some fragrance concentrates formulated by Luzi and Givaudan, and you are disappointed with their performance at 25% in ETOH. A few things. Not all of these compounds are designed for fine fragrance use in ETOH, some are made for household products, cosmetics, or candles. You bought them from a secondary seller, and I am guessing that Luzi and Givco's informational/marketing materials are not on hand. Given that these perfumes found their way to a reseller, we can assume that Luzi and Givco do not value them very highly, they could be low selling castoffs.

All of this is to say that, just because you found Givco compounded fragrances does not actually guarantee that you will like them and that they will perform in ETOH.
 

pkiler

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Looking over GCMS results for a fragrance, and then comparing those results with a formula for that same fragrance from a clone house, the differences make the fragrance oil less expensive, and last less. Sometimes even redirected away from more expensive materials.
I can't imagine that clone oils use much of Iris Absolute Synth Firmenich in Dior Homme /DHI formulations, because of it's expense. but when used, it really helps a fragrance.

The Clone fragrance oil and the real fragrance just are not the same.
 

shihanpk

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Looking over GCMS results for a fragrance, and then comparing those results with a formula for that same fragrance from a clone house, the differences make the fragrance oil less expensive, and last less. Sometimes even redirected away from more expensive materials.
I can't imagine that clone oils use much of Iris Absolute Synth Firmenich in Dior Homme /DHI formulations, because of it's expense. but when used, it really helps a fragrance.

The Clone fragrance oil and the real fragrance just are not the same.
is Dior home using real iris absolute?
 

Scentable

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This is my first post but I've only been creating colognes/perfumes for about 2 year now, but I've created a lot of nice scents with fragrance oils I bought from Perfumer's Apprentice. Most of them have a really nice longevity and they sell quite well at vendor tables. So what exactly is the problem with them?
 

ourmess

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So what exactly is the problem with them?
Fragrance oils fall into 2 categories:
  1. Not intended for perfumery. The fragrance oils sold at Perfumer's Apprentice fall into this category (PA says they're intended for "melt and pour soap bases, cold processed soaps, all candle waxes but especially soy wax, unscented incense sticks and cones, bath products and sea salts"). These will make crappy perfumes because...they're not intended for perfumery. ;p They're perfectly good for the uses they're designed for.
  2. Cheap ripoffs of popular name-brand fragrances. If you buy any of these, you will be shocked and surprised to discover that they are, in fact, cheap ripoffs.
 

Scentable

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Fragrance oils fall into 2 categories:
  1. Not intended for perfumery. The fragrance oils sold at Perfumer's Apprentice fall into this category (PA says they're intended for "melt and pour soap bases, cold processed soaps, all candle waxes but especially soy wax, unscented incense sticks and cones, bath products and sea salts"). These will make crappy perfumes because...they're not intended for perfumery. ;p They're perfectly good for the uses they're designed for.
  2. Cheap ripoffs of popular name-brand fragrances. If you buy any of these, you will be shocked and surprised to discover that they are, in fact, cheap ripoffs.
Thank you for a clarification. So if I switch over from oils what should I use and from where?
I'm familiar, I've bought a few dupes off Temu. They smelt nice but had no longevity or projection. But I like the creativity of designing my own fragrances. That's why I like using the oils form PA. The price is great for the how much you get and it gives me that freedom to play around and find nice scents. But that take us back to the first part of this message lol
 

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