Areej le Doré : The Official Discussion Thread

[Mustafa911]

Ottoman Empire is the bomb . I am ordering second bottle !!


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[kswer]

Ottoman Empire now on hold. May be sold out.

 

[Mustafa911]

Ottoman Empire now on hold. May be sold out.

Yahooooo!! Got my second bottle !!

 

[Vmaster]

DUE TO A HIGH DEMAND WE PLACE THIS OLFACTORY COMPOSITION ON HOLD.

ONCE WE DISPATCH ALL THE EXISTING ORDERS IT WILL BE ANNOUNCED HOW MANY FULL BOTTLES ARE AVAILABLE.

Best of luck to anyone else wanting to place an order.

Enjoy the OE Starblind and Mustafa!

 

[Diamondflame]

I'm not surprised. Between Kafkaesqueblog readers and Basenotes, there are more than enough fragrance geeks to buy up every bottle of Areej le Dore. We've been surviving on anemic fragrances made of synthetic building blocks for far too long...

Congratulations, Mustafa911 and Starblind on your recent acquisition of Ottoman Empire!

 

[JBS1]

Best of luck to anyone else wanting to place an order.

Enjoy the OE Starblind and Mustafa!

My order was placed on the 23rd , I haven't got my DHL Express shipping confirmation yet.
I did receive a reply from Russian Adam saying order Well Received . Fingers crossed .
Well, if anything I do have my 10 ml's and a 5 ml of each of the fragrances.
Wish me luck everyone.

 

[joeribt]

My order was placed on the 23rd , I haven't got my DHL Express shipping confirmation yet.
I did receive a reply from Russian Adam saying order Well Received . Fingers crossed .
Well, if anything I do have my 10 ml's and a 5 ml of each of the fragrances.
Wish me luck everyone.

Same here, but I am sure all will be fine. My previous order of the three samples arrived safe and well.

 

[JBS1]

Same here, but I am sure all will be fine. My previous order of the three samples arrived safe and well.

I believe you have to sign for it.
With DHL Express, they have an (e signature) , and directions to where you can have it placed .
That's what I did with my last Feel Oud order.
Lot's of times I'll be sleeping when the mail comes. A job shift related thing.
Wishing you the best of luck.

 

[Hothamwater]

I received a sample of SM. I love that old school opening - it sort've reminds me of Maai and Aeon 001, mixed.

 

[kswer]

I received an email saying my bottle of Ottoman Empire has shipped. Was a bit worried because of the fragrance being on hold. A total blind buy but if it is as good as SM I should be happy!

 

[Diamondflame]

I received an email saying my bottle of Ottoman Empire has shipped. Was a bit worried because of the fragrance being on hold. A total blind buy but if it is as good as SM I should be happy!

Then you're in luck! Ottoman Empire seldom wears the same way on me. On some days it wears like a vintage floral chypre. On others it's more ambery and oriental in feel. 2 days ago it was almost boozy /root beerish. I suspect it was the myrrh in the base.

 

[Mustafa911]

I received an email saying my bottle of Ottoman Empire has shipped. Was a bit worried because of the fragrance being on hold. A total blind buy but if it is as good as SM I should be happy!

To me it's better than SM. I prefer OM over SM. Enjoy

 

[JBS1]

Will add my take on these Areej le Dore perfumes.

Siberian Musk is thick musk, mostly herbal musk attar but with a background note of Musk Deer. I once owned a bottle of pure musk deer oil and it was extraordinarily thick, floral and mesmerizing. This musk is a blending of musk deer and herbal musk. There are undefinable elements that create a thick, cozy, slightly sweet but neutral scent of musk. Siberian Musk opens with a tart lime scent that wakes up and balances the rose and milder elements that follow. There are elements of smoke, amber, incense, rose and other florals, a blended layer of green woods (vetiver, galbanum, cypress) followed by a rich amber woods scent and then there is the musk scent. The fragrance is first and last a musk scent and roils in that unfocused musk character that is a dark, warm and thick fragrance with bits of rose, green woods, amber folded throughout. It is very potently mixed extrait although I don't know the %. The two fragrances which ever so slightly remind me of Siberian Musk are: Roja Dove Musk Oud (bolder rose w/saffron) and Atelier d' Ors Larmes du Desert (stronger amber incense). Siberian Musk has a strong neutral musk element than either of these two similarly fragranced perfumes.
Why the difference in perception? - the differences between my S. Musk and the early enthusiastic descriptions might be batch variations. I have noticed that some artisan perfumers who are small, limited resource vendors, especially those who use limited materials such as fixed batches of oud, musks, rose or other rare specific florals that are limited, have great variability in the blending from first batches to last, subject to the supply of and seasonal batch variations of valuable essential ingredients. I have noticed this variation of results from early to later products from Ensar Oud, ASAQ, AgarAura, Amouage attars, Matriarch, Bogue, Slumberhouse and others who are hand blending as orders are received. Batch variations might account for the differences in scent because I do NOT smell what I am reading about in earlier descriptions of these scents. I do like and enjoy the fragrances I received, no regrets at all, and I own full bottles of each of these from Areej le Dore.

Ottoman Empire is a resinous dark green myrrh based leather aroma with punctuating saffron floral sharp bits blended evenly through the resin body. Sadly, I do not really smell rose which is so proudly described in the description of the perfume, however rose can easily be transformed by saffron and in my bottle this appears to be the case. The saffron floral expressive parts recalls a sharp, high toned saffron attar, and this sharpness lays upon and through the dark myrrh resin body like a fine mystical glow. The resultant blend is both high pitched and sharp but also dark green and incense oriented. The somewhat dry base gives an illusion of a leather base. As with Siberian Musk the mix is a potent blend (25%-30%?) and recommend to apply with caution. The thickness of the application of Ottoman Empire influences greatly the perception of aroma of the fragrance.

Oud Zen is a deeply spiced, smokey, oud and sandlalwood perfume. The opening spicy woods are a baptism by immersion into a rich blend of: (1) 20 year old aged saffron attar blended with Indian Oud, (2) Shri Lankan Oud distilled by Adam and Papua Agarwood, (3) Indian Sandalwood and Vetiver, also Indonesian Sandalwood, (4) Sweet Myrrh and Tolu Balsam, (5) synthetic Castoreum and Civet. The result of all these rich notes is a deep woods aroma with penetrating spice opening. Oud Zen is my favorite of these three perfumes but it does have some rough edges that seem to dissolve as it wears onward. I think this fragrance will improve with time and aging. The only comparative perfume to Oud Zen I have smelled is Incense Oud By Killian - although it lacks the depth or boldness of Oud Zen.

All of these perfumes are very potent and densely constructed and so none are appropriate for a blind buy.

I am glad you wrote this about the possible batch variations .
Why,well because I have sampled both experiences when it comes to Siberian Musk.
I received a small sample from Russian Adam of SM , and it's more thick in the opeing , a dense beaver musk like.
I didn't get the lime/floral opening .
The other I recieved has this lime, and it is a bit more thinner.
The one from Russian Adam seemed to protect more also, and doesn't have what others are talking about.
The one I got from Russian Adam was when it was SM running low and you couldn't order samples from Areej Le Dore.
Thank you for posting this comment.
It's helped me out alot.

 

[Diamondflame]

I'm not too familiar with batch productions. I reckon if Adam were to reconstitute a 5 liter batch of Siberian Musk and distributes them equally into 100 Areej Le Dore bottles, they should all smell the same at any given time. Variations may still occur with maceration time and storage conditions so there is a good chance your Siberian Musk may smell a little different one year from the day you receive it.

However if smaller batches (say 1 liter) are made at different points in time from the existing stock of compounded fragrance absolute, I suppose batch #1 may smell a little different from batch #5. Given the speed at which all 100 bottles were sold out I do not think variations in actual scent, if there is any, are perceptibly significant from one bottle to another. Your mind or your perception of scent variation is a different matter altogether. Likewise, many Basenotes reviewers have highly trained noses which can pick out these subtle differences. :smiley: For instance I don't always get the rose element in Ottoman Empire but that is one note that blends in well with sandalwood and saffron.

If my own experience is anything to go by, samples in atomisers tend to suffer from storage integrity issues so they tend to evaporate and deteriorate sooner. Perhaps that's why JBS1's sample (presumably older) is missing the more volatile lime/citrusy topnotes.

 

[Starblind]

I'm not too familiar with batch productions. I reckon if Adam were to reconstitute a 5 liter batch of Siberian Musk and distributes them equally into 100 Areej Le Dore bottles, they should all smell the same at any given time. Variations may still occur with maceration time and storage conditions so there is a good chance your Siberian Musk may smell a little different one year from the day you receive it.

However if smaller batches (say 1 liter) are made at different points in time from the existing stock of compounded fragrance absolute, I suppose batch #1 may smell a little different from batch #5. Given the speed at which all 100 bottles were sold out I do not think variations in actual scent, if there is any, are perceptibly significant from one bottle to another. Your mind or your perception of scent variation is a different matter altogether. :smiley:

If my own experience is anything to go by, samples in atomisers tend to suffer from storage integrity issues so they tend to evaporate and deteriorate sooner. Perhaps that's why JBS1's sample (presumably older) is missing the more volatile lime/citrusy topnotes.

As someone who owns (*ahem*) several bottles of Siberian Musk, I can attest that each one smells exactly the same. And the two samples I received smelled exactly like the full bottles I own.

This is not to say that no one else can have a different experience, just that I haven't noticed any batch variation at all, and I've now smelled quite a bit of SB.

 

[Diamondflame]

As someone who owns (*ahem*) several bottles of Siberian Musk, I can attest that each one smells exactly the same. And the two samples I received smelled exactly like the full bottles I own.

This is not to say that no one else can have a different experience, just that I haven't noticed any batch variation at all, and I've now smelled quite a bit of SB.

Lol. Glad to have you here with that piece of testimony. :grin:

In any case, forget about batch variability, even the exact same bottle of fragrance may be experienced a little differently by different individuals. There are simply too many variables to account for e.g. ambient temperature, humidity, skin application area, skin oil and moisture content, number of sprays, distance between nozzle from skin during application process, elapsed time, etc.

The only thing that matters at the end of the day is this: did you enjoy wearing it? :smiley:

 

[Starblind]

Lol. Glad to have you here with that piece of testimony. :grin:

In any case, forget about batch variability, even the exact same bottle of fragrance may be experienced a little differently by different individuals. There are simply too many variables to account for e.g. ambient temperature, humidity, skin application area, skin oil and moisture content, number of sprays, distance between nozzle from skin during application process, elapsed time, etc.

The only thing that matters at the end of the day is this: did you enjoy wearing it? :smiley:

Exactly!

 

[JBS1]

I'm not too familiar with batch productions. I reckon if Adam were to reconstitute a 5 liter batch of Siberian Musk and distributes them equally into 100 Areej Le Dore bottles, they should all smell the same at any given time. Variations may still occur with maceration time and storage conditions so there is a good chance your Siberian Musk may smell a little different one year from the day you receive it.

However if smaller batches (say 1 liter) are made at different points in time from the existing stock of compounded fragrance absolute, I suppose batch #1 may smell a little different from batch #5. Given the speed at which all 100 bottles were sold out I do not think variations in actual scent, if there is any, are perceptibly significant from one bottle to another. Your mind or your perception of scent variation is a different matter altogether. Likewise, many Basenotes reviewers have highly trained noses which can pick out these subtle differences. :smiley: For instance I don't always get the rose element in Ottoman Empire but that is one note that blends in well with sandalwood and saffron.

If my own experience is anything to go by, samples in atomisers tend to suffer from storage integrity issues so they tend to evaporate and deteriorate sooner. Perhaps that's why JBS1's sample (presumably older) is missing the more volatile lime/citrusy topnotes.

Well my first initial thoughts were that if they were produced in small batches , then how could there be differences.
To be honest, I don't have that great of a nose .
I do get the lime in the sample that Arrej le dore sent me, the juice just seemed thicker than the other.
I just read what you wrote about decants , I think that may have played the role .
Please understand me, I love the sample . I simple do.
I also love Ottoman Empire and Oud Zen.
I ordered a full bottle of Ottoman Empire. That has to attest for something.
I also have a couple a very nice splits from strifeknot . I am very happy I got them.
I am sorry if I started any silliness .
Like I said, I really don't have the best of nose, or if any at all.
So I am very sorry .

 

[JBS1]

Exactly!

I agree .
There's no batch variations .
I just don't have that great of a nose.
And I do very much love the sample I got from Aree le Dore of SM.
I love Oud Zen too along with Ottoman Empire.
Sorry about my comment.

 

[Starblind]

I agree .
There's no batch variations .
I just don't have that great of a nose.
And I do very much love the sample I got from Aree le Dore of SM.
I love Oud Zen too along with Ottoman Empire.
Sorry about my comment.

Please do NOT worry at all! Your comments are equal to anyone else's, and I was simply adding mine to the mix. Fortunately, on Basenotes everyone is free to give their opinions and talk about their individual experiences without censure, and your comments were perfectly fine and legitimate!

I, too, am a fan of Ottoman Empire. I find Oud Zen a bit "masculine" for me, even though I rarely think in those particular terms.

Happy smelling!!