Bill Roberts
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As we have unfortunately had to discuss the opposite, I thought I'd show an example of it being done right.
Not that I'm saying to buy from them, personally I never have, but this is an example of doing it right.
Every time Plant Therapy gets in a lot of Rose Absolute Morocco, before it's offered on the website and any goes to customers, off it goes to an independent lab and analysis is done. E.g., most recently https://www.planttherapy.com/test_reports/Rose R30108.pdf
In this case, it was Phytochemia and a really nice, highly detailed analysis together with their professional evaluation of whether there is evidence of adulteration. (There wasn't.)
So we not only know everything in it when we buy it, or need to review it even years later, but we see that someone else has verified it. This is provided despite the fact that Plant Therapy has no reputation problems already. For anyone already having repeatedly put out bogus shite, such outside verification would be even more important.
Now, let's look at the SDS: https://cdn.planttherapy.com/sds/rose_absolute_eo.pdf
Note that for composition, first it reads: Rose Absolute Extract 8007-01-0 100, those latter numbers being CAS number and percentage.
That's right, for real Rose Absolute you start the thing off by saying that's what the product consists of, and you can give the CAS number and 100% because those are true.
That's in contrast to some other places where the composition does NOT claim such a thing but proceeds straight to individual chemical constituents.
Later on regarding hazards you see again Rose Absolute Extract as first thing listed and then hazards associated with that, and then you see chemical constituents known to be within it and the hazards associated with them.
As opposed to, when you have a recon you're trying to pass off to your customers as an Absolute, you can't put Rose Absolute as a constituent let alone at 100% because it isn't there.
I would understand a tiny operation maybe not being able to do these things. Though everyone no matter how small could at least provide a copy of the SDS they received rather than one they created themselves, perhaps redacting supplier if they don't want competitors to learn their source.
A perfectly good alternate for a smaller retailer who can't afford third-party verification is to buy from a major supplier who themselves has top QA and solid reputation such as Robertet, Vielle, etc and show their documentation.
But when you're pulling $20-plus million a year and claim 45 employees, as an example, the above is by no means unreasonable to expect or require.
Anyone serious, these are what they need to do.
Not that I'm saying to buy from them, personally I never have, but this is an example of doing it right.
Every time Plant Therapy gets in a lot of Rose Absolute Morocco, before it's offered on the website and any goes to customers, off it goes to an independent lab and analysis is done. E.g., most recently https://www.planttherapy.com/test_reports/Rose R30108.pdf
In this case, it was Phytochemia and a really nice, highly detailed analysis together with their professional evaluation of whether there is evidence of adulteration. (There wasn't.)
So we not only know everything in it when we buy it, or need to review it even years later, but we see that someone else has verified it. This is provided despite the fact that Plant Therapy has no reputation problems already. For anyone already having repeatedly put out bogus shite, such outside verification would be even more important.
Now, let's look at the SDS: https://cdn.planttherapy.com/sds/rose_absolute_eo.pdf
Note that for composition, first it reads: Rose Absolute Extract 8007-01-0 100, those latter numbers being CAS number and percentage.
That's right, for real Rose Absolute you start the thing off by saying that's what the product consists of, and you can give the CAS number and 100% because those are true.
That's in contrast to some other places where the composition does NOT claim such a thing but proceeds straight to individual chemical constituents.
Later on regarding hazards you see again Rose Absolute Extract as first thing listed and then hazards associated with that, and then you see chemical constituents known to be within it and the hazards associated with them.
As opposed to, when you have a recon you're trying to pass off to your customers as an Absolute, you can't put Rose Absolute as a constituent let alone at 100% because it isn't there.
I would understand a tiny operation maybe not being able to do these things. Though everyone no matter how small could at least provide a copy of the SDS they received rather than one they created themselves, perhaps redacting supplier if they don't want competitors to learn their source.
A perfectly good alternate for a smaller retailer who can't afford third-party verification is to buy from a major supplier who themselves has top QA and solid reputation such as Robertet, Vielle, etc and show their documentation.
But when you're pulling $20-plus million a year and claim 45 employees, as an example, the above is by no means unreasonable to expect or require.
Anyone serious, these are what they need to do.
